Afterversion Disconnect - Dave Woodward - FHR #233

Funnel Hacker Radio - Podcast (Dave Woodward)

Most entrepreneurs hate sharing the “Journey” They would rather only share when they have made it. Dave Woodward details why you MUST document the journey and why you have a moral obligation to do so. The massive disconnect that occurs when you don’t will prevent you from being able to serve those you really want to help.

Tips and Tricks for You and Your Business:

  • Why it’s so important to document your journey NOW (3:25)
  • Dave talks about his wife’s struggle a few years back (5:25)
  • The importance of letting people know about your kryptonite (15:15)

Quotable Moments:

“What people buy into is emotion and feeling.”

“Time has this way of defusing and simplifying and also making you forget the pain.”

“You are one step ahead of somebody.”

“Facts tell, stories sell.”

Other Tidbits:

A lot of people have a problem selling because they can’t connect emotionally with other people. By documenting your story as it happens, people can feel your emotions, because they are real and in the moment. When you tell your story after the fact, it’s harder to sell because you’ve already disconnected from those emotions.


Speaker 1: 00:00 Welcome to funnel hacker radio podcast, where we go behind the scenes and uncover the tactics and strategies top entrepreneurs are using to make more sales, dominate their markets, and how you can get those same results. Here’s your host, Dave Woodward. Everybody, welcome back.

Speaker 2: 00:18 I’m super, super excited to have you back on. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the fact that you spend time listening to this recently. It’s been a crazy, crazy time. A month of May here is just been busy as can be and I’ve had probably 12 different interviews I’ve had to reschedule or postpone or cancel just due to a conflict as they were coming, but it’s given me the opportunity to really do a lot of own my own personal thoughts and things and I appreciate you spending time listening to these. I know this isn’t the typical thing and hopefully you’re getting the value out of this for my own personal thoughts that you get out of of somebody interviews and things, but what I want to dive into right now is this whole idea as far as the after version disconnect. This is a principle that happens to so many of us when we start going for whatever our dream is and especially when we’re trying to teach people how to do that.

Speaker 2: 01:03 What happens for a lot of us is known. We got to this situation as far as, Gosh, I hear it all the time. I don’t want to publish. You know, I’m just not good enough. Oh Man, I’m just not ready yet. I just don’t know enough and oh my gosh, there’s so many other people know more than I do, and so the what I see happen quite a bit as so often people aren’t willing to document the process and they keep saying, well, when I get to x point, then I’ll be able to provide the value that I needed to my followers, my listeners, whoever it might be, and it’s then. Then I’ll start. This is probably one of the biggest problems pc happened, especially in any of the information products, but we’re also seeing a lot of it in the coaching side and buy a ton of it.

Speaker 2: 01:45 Also, as far as consulting and what happens here is too often you want to get to the point to where you’re at the other side and then you want to provide the help and the value. The issue you run up against is what people buy into his emotion and feeling and you have this emotional disconnect because you can’t remember exactly what it was like when you were there. Time has this way of kind of diffusing and simplifying it and also making you forget the pain. It’s probably the whole reason why women have more than one kid. They just forget how painful it was.

Speaker 2: 02:21 I can tell you that I see this a lot in my own personal life and that is one of my own personal struggles is really becoming extremely vulnerable and telling people my deepest, darkest feelings and emotions and I’m trying to be more of this on facebook live and I’m really going to try here in the next day, next two to three months. For you guys to find out a lot of the vulnerable things about my past. That has gotten me to the point where it out, but what I want to do is make sure you understand why each and every single one of us needs to make sure that we’re out there publishing on a regular basis, that you’re out there and connecting with people. So often I run up against is, you know, once I get there, that’s when I’ll do it. The biggest problem I find with that is you have.

Speaker 2: 03:07 This is again, first of all, if you haven’t bought expert secrets, by all means, go right now. Stop this podcast, open up a browser, go to expert and buy expert secrets. You need to understand the whole idea about the epiphany bridge and the hero’s two journeys. This is why most of us have such a hard time selling is you can’t relate. You cannot connect emotionally with those people who you really deep down inside you want to serve, and what happens is you need to first and foremost, you’ve got to start documenting the process and you got to start today. No matter where you are, what you’ll find is that you are already. You’re one step ahead of somebody, someone out there you’re already one step ahead of and what you’ll find is that right now there’s others who are looking to you for you for help, and yet you’re preventing.

Speaker 2: 03:57 You’re not out there allowing. You’re not allowing the universe to serve you by you serving others, so I highly recommend right away. Then you start publishing, whether that’s on a podcast, whether it’s on a facebook live, whether it’s through a youtube videos, if you’re a writer, whether it’s through blogs or whatever it is, you’ve got to get to a point where you start publishing on a regular basis. It’s going to do a ton of different things for you. First of all, it’s going to allow you to get out your emotions and to document them so that when you go back, you’ll, and that’s why again, I liked the podcast or video or audio because you can then connect emotionally. You can feel the tension in your voice. You can feel the pain that you’re going through and as you share those, those moments with people, that’s the emotion that people buy a.

Speaker 2: 04:44 again, you’ve heard it a million times, stories sell and facts are facts tell and stories sell. The reason for this is because people connect emotionally with the story and I. I’m going to get real vulnerable here, not on this podcast, but I’m probably one or two in the future here where I’m going to get real vulnerable on exactly what I’ve gone through to get to where I’m at currently, but I want to kind of share with you a couple of other stories. One is of my dear wife, Oh, I love more than anything in this world. Those of you guys who know me real well, you’ll hear me refer to my wife. Her name is Carrie, but to me she’s princess and there was a time, it’s, Gosh, this September will be five years and five years ago in September she was just wasn’t feeling good and she was struggling.

Speaker 2: 05:39 She was, you have to say, my wife is a world class runner and she literally was an elite marathon runner, sub three hour marathon runner. In other words, she was able to run 26 miles in under three hours and because of that she got a lot of recognition and she was used to pushing through a lot of pain while in September, five years ago. She was in a situation where she just wasn’t feeling good. She was tired. She just, she’s like, I just cannot. I don’t know if I’m just getting older. I’m now 40 and it’s just hit me and I just can’t. I don’t know. I just can’t do it. I don’t know what’s going on. Well, after about two weeks of this, it got to the point one day where she was teaching a spinning class and she literally couldn’t continue the spinning class where she stopped spinning and just talk to Dr Students through it.

Speaker 2: 06:32 He’s like, Dave, something’s going on and it’s just. I just, I don’t know what it is. So she went into the doctor and they did an ekg and they said, holy cow, this ekg isn’t. Something’s wrong with it. She needed to go get this checked. So she took them to a cardiologist. They looked at it and said, yeah, you’ve, we need you to come in right away. And so literally within 48 hours, uh, they’re doing another ekg, and at that point they said, you know what we’re going in, and they basically said we needed to do an ECO car. We need to basically go in and find out what’s really going on. In other words, basically did this whole Catholic thing where they ended up putting a blown through and everything else. What as they started going in and they found out she basically had had three heart attacks within the week and to make matters worse, her left anterior descending artery, which is known as the widowmaker was 100 percent closed, occluded.

Speaker 2: 07:31 And because of that she was in. That was why she was having all this pain. Well, as we’ve gone in and basically the doctor not knowing what the end result was going to be, the doctor said, listen, Mr Woodward, I need you to come over here. I want to talk to you about a couple of things. She goes, listen, I don’t know exactly what’s going on here, but this is going to be real quick procedure because you know what? I think she’s just got a lot of anxiety, a lot of stress going on in your wife. Just needs to learn how to deal with the stress of what’s going on in her life. And I said that, that’s not my wife. She deals with a lot of stress. She understands what’s going on and she’s a runner and she goes, well, let me say this will be a quick procedure.

Speaker 2: 08:05 Well, it wasn’t. It was literally two hours later he came out and he apologized. He said, Mr Woodward, I am so sorry. I had no idea what was going on and we’re so grateful she’s in here and we got this thing taken care of and at first she was like, I just don’t want to share this with anybody. I’m sure almost kinda went through this whole embarrassment thing of like, Gosh, I’m in this world class athlete, what’s going on? And, and I just, I don’t want to even know about this. And so it was kind of kept our close friends knew, but that was about it. It wasn’t something she wanted to tell everyone around the world about what was going on. And as time went on, time being about a week or two other people started reaching out to her and heard what had happened. And so she thought, you know, I’ve got to put a facebook post out so people understand that I’m okay and everything else.

Speaker 2: 08:52 So she wrote up this long facebook post about her experience, about what had happened, the emotion she had gone through the symptoms as a woman for a heart attack, heart disease, actually the number one killer of women. And the problem is that the symptoms are different. It’s basically the symptoms that any busy mom or busy woman’s going to go through fatigue. It’s, it’s just feeling like you just can’t continue going on. It’s not the, my left arm is going, none. It’s not the pounding in my chest. And so because of that, a lot of these things go unnoticed. Well, she ended up doing this massive, huge, long facebook posts telling her exact story. What she went through the emotions because at that point it was still really pure, really raw, and then continue to, to post about every month or so after that, what happened was amazing to me.

Speaker 2: 09:47 So many people started reaching out, um, it because after she was able to get back and she started running again, she got the situation to where lily, we were. She was getting facebook personal messages from athletes around the world who are going through the same. Can you really run again? Is there really an opportunity? It, can I get back to where I was? Am I in a city? Is this the end of my career? Is this the end of my. And because of her experience and her being so raw and so pure and so open, so many people reached out to the point where she literally was connecting with athletes in, in Europe, in Asia, in South America, all around, literally around the world. And got to the point where the American heart association reached out to her and said, you know, we’ve heard your story and we want to know more.

Speaker 2: 10:37 So they started talking more about what she was doing and the fact that she was coming back and you have to understand my wife at that point, he had ran Boston marathon twice, she’d read the New York Marathon, all marathons that you have to qualify for, you’ve got to be extremely fast to get into these types of marathons. And the American Heart Association was sponsoring the Chicago Marathon and it’s because of her post that they basically said, you know what, we want to fly you out. We want you to, we want to sponsor you to run to run the Chicago marathon because we want to show people that there’s life after this heart attack. There’s, you actually can come back. That was the most fascinating experience for me to see as she was out there running. It was a tough race for um, and it wasn’t world record setting the like she was hoping to get to.

Speaker 2: 11:26 But the coolest thing for me was to see how many people were so touched by her coming back. And it was her journey back. And yes it was, it was extremely emotional. It was extremely painful for me as as a husband where I was sitting there, I may have lost my wife and and going through all the emotion of it. I look back and it’s been five years, seems like an eternity ago because of so much so many things have happened, but I’m so grateful that she spent the time to record it, to document it because she literally is blessed the lives of so many other people because she went through that process of documenting her journey and her journey wasn’t easy. It never ever is, and yet at the same time, because she went through that, she literally became a spokesperson for the American Heart Association. She was able to to help others around the world to come back and to be that person.

Speaker 2: 12:18 Was she back to where she was and wanted to be back? As for our for world class times? No, and that’s what I want to make sure you understand is as you go through the setbacks, as you go through the trials, you have to document these things because you are literally, I believe that you’re given these experiences to. Bless the lives of other people. If you take a look at expert secrets and some of the stuff that Russell’s put out recently, if you go back to marketing your car marketing, your car was all because of Russell being at one of his lowest points and yet at the same time over for, Gosh, I think we’re 400, 500 episodes now. It’s now become marketing secrets, but because of those podcasts, it is given so many other entrepreneurs hope so many other entrepreneurs. The opportunity that you know what?

Speaker 2: 13:06 I can come back, I can make it through this. I can. And it’s important for you to understand that you’re giving these, these trials, these struggles, everything else to be the blessing in the lives of other people. So I’d encourage you, no matter where you are right now, start documenting, start documenting whatever the process is for you and you’ll find that you then will have the ability to connect more people. Uh, we have an epiphany script in on page one, 14 of expert secrets that goes through really helping people understand and document their story. So if you’re already kind of beyond where you want it to be and you haven’t documented past, I’d encourage you to go get a copy of expert secrets. Go to expert Get expert secrets. Look at page one, 14, and start answering those questions. As you answer those different questions, it’s going to bring back the emotion.

Speaker 2: 13:56 It’s going to bring back the feelings that you were going through and then start publishing those, publish those questions, publish those answers, and you’ll find that as you do that, you’re going to draw other people into you. I’m going to be doing this exact same thing in a future podcast here about exactly how that happens. Now realize that I hear a lot of people don’t want to have. I just don’t want. I don’t want to be that vulnerable. I don’t want people to. I just, I’m afraid to do that. Please understand that superman is the absolute worst superhero in the world. Until you know his, the impact that Kryptonite has on him prior to that Superman. He’s got actually a vision. He can fly faster than speed balling. Jump over building the guy literally is invincible and being that invincible as a superhero. It’s just not even.

Speaker 2: 14:48 It’s not believable and it’s not even. You don’t even really like to cheer for this guy until you know that he has a weakness and the fact that his weakness is a rock and a rock from some distant planet. You’re like, really? He’s a rock is what basically can destroy this man. Understand every single one of us have our own Kryptonite and it’s important that you let others know about your Kryptonite. For some that Kryptonite is your backstory. For some that Kryptonite is other things that you struggle with currently and presently that you’re going through. I take a look at some of the people in our inner circle who are out there helping others go through divorce or or recovering from alcoholism or drug addiction or other things is because they went through that. It’s because of their story that they’re on the other side.

Speaker 2: 15:42 Realize that whatever it is that you have to offer people wherever you are in your journey, you need to get that documented because that journey is going to be a blessing in the lives of so many other people. So at this point I really encourage you guys, get a copy of expert secrets. Go to expert If you already have experts secrets, go to page one, 14 and start answering that. The epiphany questions. Go through those and then publish those, whether you do it through audio, whether you do it through video, whether you do it through a written text, but make sure that you get the emotion. Make sure that you connect emotionally with people. It’s one of the things that Russell is probably one of the best at, is the ability to get that, to elicit that kind of emotion because he’s out there being that vulnerable and that pure in that raw himself.

Speaker 2: 16:33 I wish I had that strength. It’s one of the things I’m personally working on a ton and as I mentioned before in the next few episodes here, I’m. I’m going to go through the same thing. I’m basically asking you to do, I’m going to go through those nine different questions and I’m going to publish to you some of the things that make me extremely vulnerable and I hope that you’ll take the time right now. Again, expert Get a copy if you already got it. Page one, 14. Have an amazing, amazing day. I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to listen. I know there’s a ton of podcasts out there. I know you’re extremely busy. If you’ve got a few minutes and you wouldn’t mind, I would love if you’d go over to itunes rate review this podcast. I read every, every review that’s out there. If you want to reach out to me personally and tell me how I’m doing, I have greatly appreciated those as well. Just personal message me on facebook or email me David, click funnels. Again, I, I’m going through this process myself and as I’m trying to share this with you, I hope that I hope you’re feeling what I’m going through and that most importantly that it’s a blessing in your life and helping you get through whatever it is you’re going to wish you all the success in the world. Have an amazing day.

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