Andrew Warner, Secrets To Chat Bot Marketing (Is Email Dead?)

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welcome to funnel hacker radio podcast
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where we go behind the scenes and
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uncover the tactics and strategies top
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host Dave Woodward everybody welcome
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back to funnel hacker radio I’m your
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host Dave Woodward today you guys are in
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for a massive treat you have the
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opportunity of hearing from the
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legendary Andrew Warner and you’re
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welcome
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thanks have me on here I’m so excited
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after this is a so andrew is the founder
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of mixergy if you haven’t listened to a
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podcast it’s an absolute must
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again it basically has the option of
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interviewing literally legends in all
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sorts of industries from founders of the
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Airbnb to founders of anybody at all
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who’s anybody inside of the
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entrepreneurial space but I think the
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thing I’m most excited really spend time
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talking about today Andrew and that is
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the whole idea as far as that bought
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Academy that you you’re created and
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really getting a spending more time in
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the whole bot thing so anything else as
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far as an introduction you’d like to add
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about yourself before we dive in no like
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you said the big thing I’m excited about
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is this new thing which is baaad academy
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where we teach people how to create chat
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BOTS and I think chat bots are so
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massively large that I made an angel
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investment in it I’ve been a first mover
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on it and I can’t stop talking about it
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which is why we created bot Academy you
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know it’s it’s fascinating to me because
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I as I was kind of doing some
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preliminary stuff prior to our call here
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I was going through right soon as you
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get to mixer calm the very first thing
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pops up on the right hand side is is
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this little pop-up obviously a bill bot
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and I walk through that and it was just
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fascinating so if you guys haven’t if
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you’re not going boss I highly recommend
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you go to mixergy comm and you’ll see
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the bot thing but Andrews going to dive
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and it tell us a ton about this kind of
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stuff so right now is if you don’t mind
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there’s touch just help people show what
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exactly is a chat bot well what I
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noticed a while back was that we were as
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a company reaching our customers using
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email and I remember one time we’re
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sitting around saying we got to improve
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the open rates on our email and so we
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sent a Google Doc around where we were
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all contributing to different subject
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lines different email copy and so on and
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when we finally hit it I sent an
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iMessage to April our head writer and I
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said April you are amazing I love what
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you did with this and then I sent
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another message to tam-tam Tamar who was
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our community manager at the time and I
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told them Tam we’ve got to be ready for
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a growing community because the CML is
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going to be so good if you’ve ever
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written a really good email you know
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that it’s going to sell it’s going to
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get people to come into your site and
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all that so Tam I sent a message using
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facebook Messenger and then I went to
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Michael our developer on slack and I
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said dude you got to be ready because
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we’re going to get more orders and I
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realized something I was reaching all
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these people using chat apps and the
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people who I wanted to sell to I was
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using email and there was a disconnect
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there it made me realize that the people
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I love the people I work with I use
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simple chat apps to reach because it’s
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shorter because it’s more fun because
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more engaging and the people who are
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selling I’m treating like second-class
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citizens and only reaching via email I
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said I wonder if there is a way to
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change that what if I could actually
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reach my customers reach my potential
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customers reach my fans using the apps
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that they’re on all the time and so I
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started investigating this and it took
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me months and about a year ago I came up
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with the solution which is chat BOTS
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chat BOTS are a way to do chat to a
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large audience with massive
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customization so today if I wanted to
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reach my audience yeah I can send them
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an email and I will but I’ll also send
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them a three sentence message on
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Facebook Messenger and then I’ll have a
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button underneath it where they could
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click to show that they’re interested
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and then I’ll send them a gift and a
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little more text and then in another
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button so that they’re constantly being
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engaged and everything’s in short bursts
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and by the way every time I send them a
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message
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because their phone will vibrate in
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their pocket letting them I send letting
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them know I send them a message
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I get like over 80% open rates on this
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stuff and not only that nobody else how
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many other interviewers do you know who
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are sending Facebook messages to their
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audience not none
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yeah so right I get the full field to
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myself which is been freaking tastic and
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that’s the exciting part basically chat
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box are like taking every
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you know about email automation and
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bringing it to chat apps not saying
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emails dead I’m just saying you take
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everything you know to chat apps and you
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add to your you add to your funnel I
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love that idea I could did for our
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audience obviously we’ve got
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entrepreneurs who are from startup to
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those in the ten million plus range and
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having that ability to communicate with
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your your customers your prospect is
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really the biggest thing just trying to
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cut through all the clutter I know you
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may miss as far as your emails not dead
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you don’t mind just kind of address that
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a little bit more Andrew as far as
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because I get people asking me all the
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time well should I do this or should I
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do that and it seems like most people
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have the approach as far as it’s
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either-or what’s your take on it you
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know what I remember when when I started
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mixergy back in 2008 I was really like
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arrogant about how social media was the
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future why would I even bother with an
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email list email is something from the
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late 1990s early 2000s forget about it
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and it wasn’t until I did interview
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after interview with software
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entrepreneur content entrepreneur and
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others where they all talked about how
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they needed to build their email list
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but I finally got it through my thick
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skull hey you know what actually email
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is not dead even though it’s old it
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still works
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I should be building a list and my list
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was really effective now today all the
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work that we spend to make our subject
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line better is not going to double
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triple open rates it’s going to just
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keep it consistent email is consistent
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it works I’m not saying that it
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shouldn’t what I’m saying is there’s
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just new thing that does work in
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addition to email and that new thing
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that’s working in addition to email is
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is it’s chat apps and so I’m not telling
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people to shut down their websites I’m
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not telling people to never build apps
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I’m not telling people to stop sending
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out emails all those things work
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I’m just saying hey there’s a new thing
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it’s working really well you’d be
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foolish not to try it you’d be foolish
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not to say I got at least experiment
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with this and frankly since nobody else
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in your business is probably doing this
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right now you’d be foolish to not work
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like mad to get as many subscribers as
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possible to your chat experience and
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that’s what we’re doing which is why as
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you said Dave you go to my site mixergy
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com that’s M IX e RG y m IX e RG y comm
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ad
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this moment you’re going to see on the
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right side of the screen uh this little
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slide income come up that says I’m
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experimenting with something on Facebook
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do you want to sign up
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anyone who presses that button will get
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my messages sent to them on facebook
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messenger and they’ll get to experience
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what it’s like they’ll get to see it I’m
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doing everything I can to lock in
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subscribers you know what I think
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everyone should but I’ll tell you part
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of the reason is I remember when Twitter
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first came out Jason Calacanis a friend
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said that he was trying it you got great
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responses so I spent one Friday night
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just on my own on the couch just looking
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at all the people who are following him
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and just started to randomly follow
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every one of them when I followed any
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one of his followers they followed me
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right back and I was able to quickly
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build a Twitter following and like an
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evening after a couple of hundred I said
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okay I got this I see how this works I’m
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going to move on if I hadn’t moved on if
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I had actually automated a grown it I
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think that the Twitter following that I
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have could have gone from what thirty
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forty thousand if you combine all my
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different accounts of about a hundred
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thousand it would have gone into the
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millions and I know I would have driven
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more sales to my site because we did for
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a long time when Twitter was hot dried
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sale to the site I saw I thought I was
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intellectually satisfied by
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understanding how Twitter worked and I
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kind of moved on I don’t want to do the
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same thing here I see how this works I
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want to lock in as many subscribers as
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possible and I want to do it before
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people are tired of subscribing to new
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things and right now they’re not they’re
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so curious they’ll sign up they’ll do it
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they’re curious they’ll open up they’re
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curious
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they’ll be engaged and we’ll just keep
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locking into subscribers growing our
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experiences with them so and I as soon
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as I went through all this I’ve look at
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this thing and I think the part I love
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most about your body cabin again you
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guys go to mixergy comm make sure you
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get signed up on the spot and understand
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how he’s doing it here but it’s it’s
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really cool because you’ve got graphics
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and gifts you’ve got on there you’ve got
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text you’ve got calls to action you’ve
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got I mean just so many other you know
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typical marketing strategies we talked
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about and the way you’ve implemented
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them all with inside this bot is just
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fascinating to me yeah and you know and
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sometimes a gift works better than
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anything else like let me give you an
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example imagine
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if I were selling running shoes I’m just
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going to throw out an example somebody
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came to my site I’d say can I teach you
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how to run 20% faster all you have to do
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is click this button and I’ll send it to
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you to your facebook Messenger
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now obviously I’m making this sound very
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worthy you’ve use of design to keep it
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from sounding so wordy I know your
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audience is full of people who who hate
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that kind of call to action obviously
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we’d make it we make it crisper but you
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get the point a user would click the
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button and they’d get a report
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automatically sent to their facebook
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Messenger and it could be a PDF we could
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be whatever says here are some
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techniques for increasing your running
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style for getting more speed without
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hurting your legs right the next day I
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might come back and say hey by the way I
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know you got that PDF for me I’m curious
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are you a Road Runner or do you go
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off-road running now the person will
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click one of those two buttons and I put
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a button that says off-road or Road
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running a person would click the one of
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those two buttons and then they’d start
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to be put into a sequence the next thing
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I’d say if do they click let’s say Road
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running that’s the kind of running that
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I do the bot would say you know what I
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have some really good tips for how to
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run on streets can I share the first one
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with you there’s a button that says yes
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now the person would then my first tip
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might be if you notice the road often
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curves if you’re on a street it curves
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into the curb actually curves into the
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curb which means that if you are running
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on on the road your left leg is going
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down lower than your right leg and I
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wouldn’t want to just use it words to
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show it I would actually take a picture
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of the road and show that to them and
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then I think here’s a picture of the
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road
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notice how curbs can I show you how you
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run on a road like that person clicks a
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button then I show them a gif with a
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person running on a road where they can
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see for themselves how one leg is longer
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than the other then I say can I tell you
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the problem you’re going to have because
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you’re running on the road person clicks
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a button and then I teach them something
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now every day I teach them something
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like this using videos using gifts using
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images and keep understanding more about
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them by having them press buttons having
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them give me some feedback about
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themselves and that that way they trust
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me they learn from me they improve their
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running from me and when I’m ready to
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sell them Road shoes or
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training week or anything like that
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they’ll have gotten a relationship with
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me that they could never have gotten via
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email and that’s the whole idea of via
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via chat BOTS I absolutely love watching
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watching this as I look at your page the
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great thing for me is from just basic
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marketing principles the ways you just
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explained the upper yeah permission
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based marketing you’re also engaging
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them through micro commitments where
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they’re taking a kite they’re building
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relationships of trust with you I mean
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here you get to the point where again I
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got down to the incident you want to
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join my community I’m like yeah of
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course I want to join my community I
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love the fact you got a thumbs up right
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there it’s all positive it’s so engaging
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where a person they really just feel
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like they’re they’re involved they’re
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having this conversation and kind of
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what you were just talking about he’s
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taking that conversation they’re already
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having their head and you have it with
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them in such a entertaining way that
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it’s almost this whole gamification of
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email fix I’m just so totally impressed
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yeah yes all everything you said a
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hundred percent and you know what here’s
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what we haven’t added in there and I
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have it the path actually and I took it
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down we we can fell through there
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Facebook actually makes it easy for you
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to sell in facebook Messenger now the
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other chat platforms also encourage you
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to do it but Facebook makes it really
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easy they’ll let you use their payment
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processor so if I wanted to sell shoes
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inside my bond
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I could have people just put their
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thumbs on that button on their iPhone to
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get authorization and Facebook would
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send them would collect payment from
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them put in my account and then I could
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send the the shoes to the person’s house
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they don’t even have to enter their
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credit card information we happen to use
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stripe I could use stripe in there too
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so all the things that we’re familiar
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with with email carry on in there but
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also there are other features that we
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never would have thought of putting into
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an email because email is just so so
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restrictive again I’m not saying don’t
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if you sign up to my bot there are times
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when I ask you for your email address
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and I actually will start sending you
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email you’ll see that we have both
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sequences going at the same time and I
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tweet and I post on Facebook and all
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that but I do see that this thing is
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it’s the future of communication I
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totally agree it’s
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you make vinta I’ve literally had almost
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all the apps open today that you were
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talking about I’ve got slack open for
13:24
communications out of our office I’ve
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got Facebook Messenger open because
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people are communicating with as far as
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our other teams go I’ve got Skype open
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I’ve got ENL open and you and I are
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using Skype to talk to each other
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Microsoft on the Skype now if you look a
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little bit through the new Skype app
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they’ve updated a few times recently
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you’ll see that they’re encouraging you
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to subscribe to bots in Skype and box
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and Skype will allow you to do things
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like buy airline tickets and I get how
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this is going to be a part of every chat
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app out there slack was the first and
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probably the biggest platform for BOTS
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Facebook messenger now I believe is
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bigger even than slack for BOTS the
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reason that we’re focusing on messenger
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is everybody has it unlike slack anyone
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can add another bot unlike slack where
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you might need to be an administrator to
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add it a bot and also you have 1.2
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billion people using facebook Messenger
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every month and the company is actively
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encouraging people to create more BOTS
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we had a tech issue I contacted a
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someone at Facebook and they gave me a
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response to it literally within minutes
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think about that within minutes but they
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gave me a response because they care so
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much about having more communication
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happen on this platform by the way I get
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it
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you know what when Yahoo was the number
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one player the dominant internet brand
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the dominant internet portal as they as
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they called it at the time one of the
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first things they did was they added
14:46
email so you could have an at Yahoo
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email address right Microsoft bought
14:51
hotmail before that because they needed
14:52
to have email as part of the experience
14:54
Google then became the dominant player
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and they had to add email because you’re
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not a player unless people are using you
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for major communication right so Google
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did that Facebook then started doing it
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to every one of us have has a Facebook
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email address
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hardly any one of us have ever used it
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which means in their first version of
15:14
trying to do what all the major brands
15:16
had done before the major online portals
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had done before they failed but they
15:20
realized the way to succeed is not to
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try to recreate the old but to see
15:26
what’s coming next and take hold of that
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and what’s coming next is chat and now
15:30
they’ve focus so heavily on
15:32
the facebook messenger bead that
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interface your mom will communicate with
15:36
you on facebook messenger they want your
15:38
employees to communicate with you on
15:39
Facebook Messenger and they have a
15:41
really big push for that and they know
15:44
that they’re going to get companies
15:45
contacting people on Facebook messenger
15:47
and they wanted they partnered up with
15:49
PayPal I signed up for PayPal recently
15:51
with a new actually updated like my bank
15:53
account in it as soon as I saw the
15:55
confirmation page I smiled because right
15:57
above the button was a pre check check
15:59
box that said from now on do you want to
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get your receipt sent to you on facebook
16:03
Messenger I said I gotta take a smash
16:05
out of that right oh yeah I’ll end up
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with Facebook and Facebook is
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encouraging more of these kinds of
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interactions to happen on their platform
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this is the future and that’s why I
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created bot Academy to teach people how
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to start today how to grow their
16:20
subscribers today well again I this is
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one of the main reasons I was so excited
16:24
to have you on this podcast is to get
16:26
this education information out to our
16:29
users as fast as possible I know you can
16:31
be doing a webinar tell tell us a little
16:33
bit more about bot Academy how they’re
16:34
going to be able to get into the webinar
16:36
all that other kind of stuffs because I
16:37
want to make sure this is one of the
16:39
main things we’re experimenting a ton
16:40
with is is trying to make sure we want
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to make sure we have control as many
16:46
opportunities of communicate with people
16:48
as possible
16:48
yes actually to make it easier for them
16:50
and same thing you just made miss Mars
16:52
PayPal make it easy just your receipt if
16:53
they’re on I Hispanics I’ve had a couple
16:55
receipts come up and I’m like oh my gosh
16:57
how did that happen
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but I love it fantastic yeah it is
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amazing right Facebook even has a
17:01
template for receipts to make it easier
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for companies send you receipts that way
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and by the way clickfunnels easy way to
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  • it’s easy software it’s software that
    17:11
    makes it easy to collect subscriptions
    17:12
    to your bot so anyone out there who
    17:14
    creates a bot can clearly use pay per
    17:16
    click part of click funnels to get
    17:19
    subscribers I know that now is the
    17:21
    number one way that we’re creating
    17:22
    subscribers to our bot we have a page
    17:25
    created with click funnels and a button
    17:28
    on it that says subscribe to our bot
    17:30
    again written more elegantly than that
    17:32
    but you get the point so my goal my goal
    17:34
    with pot with the bot Academy the goal
    17:37
    with bot Academy is to help anyone out
    17:39
    there learn how to create a bot and in
    17:42
    the near future I’m going to even allow
    17:44
    you to hire some of our graduates
    17:45
    actually we’ve started doing that
    17:46
    already if you don’t want to learn how
    17:48
    to do it our graduates will just set up
    17:50
    a bot for you pay them and they’ll set
    17:52
    up a bottom you’ll have one up and
    17:53
    running often within 24 hours to your
    17:56
    specification and the webinar that we’re
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    doing is along those lines my mission is
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    to get as many people out there as
    18:02
    possible to create BOTS for their
    18:04
    businesses which is why I’m here doing
    18:06
    this interview which is why it sound
    18:07
    like I’m bouncing off the walls talking
    18:09
    to your audience and one way that we’re
    18:11
    going to dance that goal is I’m going to
    18:13
    do a webinar anyone is listening is
    18:14
    going to be able to come watch me talk
    18:16
    about BOTS and see exactly how to create
    18:19
    their own BOTS by the end of our 45 to X
    18:24
    let’s say an hour together by the end of
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    the hour I will have everyone who’s in
    18:29
    there set up their BOTS it’ll be fully
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    functioning it’ll have images or I’ll
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    have text and they’ll be able to start
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    growing their subscribers so that they
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    can start reaching their people using
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    BOTS so they can start seeing the
    18:41
    excitement for it there’s nothing like
    18:43
    having somebody email you text message
    18:46
    you call you up and say how did you do
    18:48
    that how did you do that how did you
    18:50
    come my facebook Messenger how do you
    18:51
    add those buttons I didn’t even know
    18:52
    that were possible that is such an
    18:55
    exciting phone call to get and I haven’t
    18:56
    gotten those phone calls for other ways
    18:58
    of communicating in a long time so uh
    19:01
    the URL if anyone was interested if they
    19:03
    want to come it’s completely free we’re
    19:04
    going to be teaching all of this and
    19:06
    you’ll be able to create your bot not
    19:08
    just teaching not just learn it actually
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    doing it it’s a bot academy.com slash
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    funnel hacker bot Academy comm slash
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    funnel hacker and we’re going to be
    19:18
    doing it in partnership with
    19:20
    clickfunnels we are so excited this is
    19:23
    one of the main things I want to make
    19:24
    sure we’ll be sending out a lot of
    19:26
    Facebook messages and everything else to
    19:28
    our community through BOTS actually
    19:30
    about this and obviously post it on
    19:32
    Facebook and letting people know about
    19:34
    this I want to make sure as so many of
    19:37
    our business owners are this is so
    19:38
    cutting edge and if you’re looking for
    19:41
    that slight advantage of getting ahead
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    of your competition there’s nothing
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    better than this and Android gets so
    19:46
    excited to it to have you on this
    19:48
    podcast sharing this kind of content
    19:50
    with people anything else you want to
    19:52
    say before we wrap things up I had a
    19:55
    note on my calendar that just a few days
    19:59
    went off and it said do you like your
    20:02
    Apple watch and the reason that I had
    20:04
    that on my calendar is I had dinner with
    20:05
    a few friends about a year ago and I was
    20:08
    a little iffy and I said you know what
    20:09
    let’s see where I am a year from now so
    20:11
    I put it on my calendar a year from then
    20:13
    to look at it I realize you know what I
    20:14
    kind of do like it now that it’s a year
    20:16
    on I suggest that anyone was listening
    20:17
    make a note a year from today on their
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    20:22
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    I’d make a bet with anyone who’s out
    20:29
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    20:31
    that because of funnel hacker because of
    20:33
    this podcast you now have a bot or a
    20:35
    year from now you’ll have a bot and
    20:36
    you’ll be so excited that you’ll have
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    locked it in before anyone else did
    20:39
    you’re going to be glad that you were
    20:40
    listening to this it’s going to really
    20:42
    materially measurably change your
    20:44
    business even if you don’t do it through
    20:46
    me but if you don’t show up to the
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    webinar having a bot is going to
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    measurably change your business a year
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    from now and you’re going to say mr.
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    20:53
    had Andrew on and I’m going to say to
    20:55
    you right now thanks so much for having
    20:56
    me on here it is such a pleasure for me
    20:58
    I’m so excited to get will be letting
    21:01
    people know about this as much as we
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    the twenty second I’m sure there’ll be
    21:05
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    21:08
    find out more about this but again guys
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