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welcome to funnel hacker radio podcast
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where we go behind the scenes and
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uncover the tactics and strategies top
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entrepreneurs are using to make more
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sales dominate their market and how you
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can get those same results
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here is your host Dave Woodward
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everybody welcome back to funnel hacker
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radio I’m your host Dave Woodward today
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you have the opportunity of hearing from
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a guy who’s been in online for years
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started off doing the web design for a
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lot of internet marketing gurus and then
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most importantly has figured out
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anything and everything there is to do
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with email autoresponders so Dave MS
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welcome to the show thanks for having me
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dance I appreciate it I am so excited
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this is uh one of those crazy things
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where you were introduced to me through
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a mutual friend I know we’ve kind of
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both been in space for a long-ass time
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across and I’m so excited to kind of
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find out more about your story kind of
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what you’ve been doing I know that we
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were talking earlier offline basically
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here as far as getting autoresponder
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analytics I know it’s your company up
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and running connected with quick funnels
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but in the mean time I know a lot of
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people would love to know kind of your
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story especially since you started off
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kind of as the web designer for a lot of
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these internet marketing gurus if you
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don’t mind helping a little about your
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backstory and how it relates to them as
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far as other quintals users sure sure
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sure sure so um you know I think my
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story kind of relates similar to you
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know pretty much everybody that’s using
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clickfunnels or every internet marketer
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you know like I was in a really crappy
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job and I’m gonna try to keep this PG as
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PG as possible just for because I know
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Russell so uh you know I I was in a
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really crappy job
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the year was it’s like 99 early 2000
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like 1999 and I was working have you
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ever seen the movie wolf of Wall Street
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ah I haven’t seen it but I’ve heard a
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lot about it yeah so you know most
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people know the movie so I used to do
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that for work in my early 20s that’s
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like my gosh so like yeah like what you
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see in the movie like I actually lived
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it and experienced it and I was like 21
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at the time 22 and I you know I didn’t
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know what I was doing I kind of just got
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swept up into it and it was amazing I
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got the best sales education I could
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ever ask for but I hated my job you know
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like some ones that make good money some
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months I wouldn’t
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you know and when if you see the movie
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there are certain scenes where you know
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like people lose all their money and you
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know the brokers are like hiding under
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the desks Hido yeah and yeah those days
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were not fun
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so I got out of that to do internet
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stuff you know this is like when the
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dot-com boom was starting like 99 2000 I
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was like okay I’m going to make websites
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and I literally like walked into the
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office the next day and told the bosses
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I’m going to quitting like a six-figure
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job to uh those make websites and they
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looked at me like I was not and so yes I
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started doing that and I started started
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building websites I started learning how
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to do that and I ended up going to
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advertising school and um you know one
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thing led to another and I just started
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going down this rabbit hole of how to
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make money on the internet you know and
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you know back then I don’t know if you
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can relate to this but like I’m real big
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into sports and when I first started on
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the computer on the internet I didn’t
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know what to do I was like where do you
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go
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what do you do you know this is like mm
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back then and I would just go to like
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espn.com and you know one thing led to
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another and I started just finding out
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stuff about making money on the internet
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but I had no idea how I was going to do
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it you know I wasn’t an expert at
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anything I was just building websites so
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I started you know just posting on these
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marketing forums and stuff and I started
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getting clients I had no idea who they
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were but it turned out that some of them
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were really big you know internet
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marketers guys like Armand Morin alex
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mandossian Mark Victor Hansen I did some
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work for Mark Joyner Rick Schaffer and I
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started doing work for all these
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internet marketers and I was like I
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would literally bug these guys like
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night after night especially armand
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morin because he was like a night owl so
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I just bugged the hell out of this guy
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asking them a million questions and I
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you know I didn’t know how they were
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making all this money I wasn’t great at
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writing copy I wasn’t good at driving
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traffic or any of that stuff you know I
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was just gonna you know designing cool
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stuff so I said okay like I was spending
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a lot of time on the computer and you
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know like we mentioned earlier I was 28
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or 29 at the time and I was spending a
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lot of time on the computer and I was
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single so I started doing online dating
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this is like early 2000 2001 and I did
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it for a few years and I ended up
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getting real
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really good at it to the point where I
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was never able to see my friends because
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I always had to dig fun and one thing
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led to another and I said you know what
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I’m gonna make a product about this you
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know and I never thought in a million
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years I’d make a product about dating
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you know I always thought I was going to
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be expert in the dating niche oh yeah
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yeah so I was doing like online dating
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matcom and stuff like that and you know
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obviously it’s all through email so I
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got really really good at you know
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figuring out how to get people to do
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things to email how to make women to
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respond through email how to get them
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curious how to get them to want to go
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out with me how do you know send me
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their phone numbers all these things
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that guys were usually having problems
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with I figured out and I started feeling
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a course on it so it was like 2005 early
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2005 I had met a guy online in one of
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these marketing groups and it turns out
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he was working for somebody that was in
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the dating niche this guy that was doing
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20 million dollars a year evident aegon
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sure know who Evan so he had this 20
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million dollar dating business and he
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said I’m going to you know I’m going to
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hook you up with an interview he wants
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the interview because I told them what
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you were doing so long story short we do
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this interview and they say okay we’ll
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let you know when it’s going to come out
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probably out in a couple of months so
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like two or three weeks go by it’s a
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Saturday morning I hop on my computer
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with a big hangover and there’s like 800
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emails and they all say the same thing
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basically in one form another like we
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went to that we heard the interview went
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to the site there’s nothing there so I
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emailed these guys back I’m like what
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interview what web sites
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remember I’ve got like two more three
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months of you know time I could make
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this product so you know but it was
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basically they released this interview
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without telling me a couple weeks later
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so I had all these emails I had no
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website so I spent the whole weekend
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putting this website together and now I
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had this email list so I was getting
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these emails not a lot I mean maybe like
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a thousand or you know I think at when I
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launched I had seventeen hundred and
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eighty-eight emails so not like a ton of
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emails but I had nothing to sell them
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and I had a Mac and this is like 2005
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there was no Camtasia for Mac there was
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no ScreenFlow so I had to borrow a
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friend’s computer who had a
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PC he was out partying all weekend and I
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would record these you know videos I
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made this product but the whole time I
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had to stall this list I said if I don’t
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send many emails you know the solicitors
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going to get cold and then I’m going to
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ruin this real good opportunity so mind
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you I had $2,000 to my name at that
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point I was living upstairs for my folks
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trying different things you know nothing
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was really working and uh you know this
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was kind of like do-or-die time at that
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point Cory knows either like go get a
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job or you know this is going to work so
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I put the put the site up I wrote the
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sales letter myself because I only had
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two grand you know to my name at that
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point I couldn’t afford a copywriter so
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I put it up and lo and behold it went
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absolutely nuts the first day I did like
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38 grand before stay showing one DVD is
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awesome and I remember going downstairs
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to my parents and like my parents were
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home that day and I remember going I’m
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like that I just made my 5 grand didn’t
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flinch and went back upstairs came back
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you know couple hours like I’m at what
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12 grand didn’t flinch came back to when
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I hit like 18 grand that’s kind of like
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when he started like taking notice he’s
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like what are we doing and you know like
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people don’t know what we do and it you
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know like intermembrane okay like it was
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like in one ear out the other ear
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totally didn’t get it and you know like
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for somebody that’s never experienced
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that before I’m sure some people that
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are watching this or listening to this
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have some people haven’t you know at
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this point you know I went from 2 grand
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to 38 grand in my account in like one
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day and I knew it that’s what my life
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was never going to be the same you know
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it’s it’s crazy it’s like a
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life-changing moment and you’re like
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Russell says you’re literally just one
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fun all the way you know it’s not like a
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like I will Ryan it’s really really true
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so for the first 5 years that business
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did about nine hundred and thirty
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thousand dollars with no ad spend that
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was all profit which was really really
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awesome I mean crazy I’m a million you
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know I was a millionaire within 5 years
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you know which is nuts now it sounds
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great but that was like probably about
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200 maybe 200 250 grand a year which is
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a good income you know it’s a good good
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living so it’s not like I was sitting
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there making a million dollars a year
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you know
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little bit of little bit of very
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different context but three weeks after
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I launched that site my dad got sick
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with that Liz stage four cancer so for
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everybody that’s listening you want to
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talk about the highest of highs and the
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lowest of lows I mean you really don’t
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get yeah I mean and you know it’s just a
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life lesson you know sometimes things
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happen in life and you really can’t
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control them so I literally went from
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having this raging monster of a website
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of an offer that was making money like
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hand over fist to I don’t have the
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desire or time or energy or like mental
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capacity to you know to grow it or deal
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with it because I’ve got like you know
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the most important person in my life my
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dad you know so that was like a really
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stressful time and I really had to
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figure out ways to make money with the
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business while not having to be there
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because we were literally like fighting
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for my dad life it was really really
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serious so you know I really made all my
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money through email I had to figure out
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ways to like set it and forget it or you
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know because I was in the hospital all
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day I was at you know doctors this
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treatment that was nuts so it did really
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well but you know obviously I’m you know
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I’m on two different extremes here three
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three years after my dad passed well my
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dad passed away two years after that in
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2007 - three years after that my mom got
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breast cancer in 2007 gosh yeah and
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luckily knock on wood they prodded early
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and you know and she’s okay but you know
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within a five-year period to lose my dad
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to cancer it was perfectly healthy
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before and then having my mom get it it
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was you know it’s crazy crazy crazy time
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you know probably not in a good way but
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you know um the whole time I really made
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all of my money through email
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I suck at paid traffic I I tried SEO and
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I got my site banned in 2011 so I gave
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up with that because it was too slow I
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wasn’t getting any results so out of all
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these years of email marketing what
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what’s that boil down to what I mean
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you’ve got I mean you’re crashing it
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being able to work I mean just hard tile
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because your take care of every else so
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oh my god yeah yeah so I figured out
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there was like five kinds of emails that
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I was sending out
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like five very specific styles of emos
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that it was kind of sending that I
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didn’t really see too many people were
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sending and I kind of figured okay these
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are the five styles like I was doing QA
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emails so I got that from one guy that I
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was following and I would send out like
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weekly Kuna emails I would collect all
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the emails that my subscribers were
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sending me and instead of messaging them
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privately I would just send them like a
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whole like a long Q&A; email this was
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really good because it’s like social
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proof
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you know like I’m hoping them answering
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their questions I’m giving them value
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and at the end I have a little pitch for
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my stuff and I would send these out
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every week and these would work really
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good and then in between there I would
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send out these like really short
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curiosity based emails so you wouldn’t
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have a you wouldn’t really know what
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they were or what it was about but you’d
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click through and so I started adding in
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all these different styles of emails
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because I think what happens is for most
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people is they get stuck doing the same
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style of email and when your subscribers
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catch on to what you’re doing so to
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speak that that era of mystery is gone
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that mystique is gone and when you lose
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that you lose kind of the the mojo if
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you will so you always want to keep your
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subscribers kind of like on their toes
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not knowing what to expect I love that
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idea
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curiosity has always been one of the
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main things for us as and anything we’ve
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ever built
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curiosity is by far the the headline to
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get to open the most it’s going to ages
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people the most and I love that idea
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well here’s to rip off of that so if I
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was doing that for a while and what I
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noticed is I was probably hitting a
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certain segment of my list
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and I was missing other segments in my
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list you see like people you know they
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talk about different modalities like
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people respond differently based on the
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modalities some people do they respond
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better when they seat on something right
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like a video example some people do
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better when they hear it and other
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people when they read it and experience
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it well kind of feel like people are
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like that as well as far as their emails
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some people respond better to curiosity
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based messages other people I found
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respond better to fact-based messages
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other people respond better to story
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based messages and other people
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respond better to urgency and scarcity
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based messages so you’re really hitting
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different like I wouldn’t even call it
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modalities but different segments of
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your market okay like maybe there’s
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people that are very analytical the
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engineers the scientists the doctors on
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your lists
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well they don’t maybe they don’t respond
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well to urgency they don’t respond well
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to curiosity but when you hit them with
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a fact-based email they can’t dispute it
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and they’re there you know they buy in
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droves so when you’re starting your list
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buy that kind of stuff or not numbers
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I’m actually not I’m kind of ghetto with
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that maybe you know I’m not as technical
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as I probably need to be with that but
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you know I’m sure most people are like
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that as well but I just write different
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styles of emails so like if I’m doing a
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like a promotion campaign first email
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I’ll do like a real curiosity based
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email the next email I’ll do more of a
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fact-based email and then from the
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relative scarcity or story scarcity
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Bergin see tip you know to end the
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campaign and it just kind of gives you
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like a framework of kind of what - how
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to write the email you know so it’s not
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like what to write it’s okay I’ve got to
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write an email based on you know to sell
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clickfunnels but it’s all based on facts
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so you’re going to talk about oh you’re
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saving time you’re saving this you know
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all the specific things you know and if
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this works amazing amazing I can’t tell
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you that the difference you know that
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that this made and again it’s all giving
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your stuff any of your teeth though so
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those people are listening to hear one
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more time sighs what breakdown as far as
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what the different styles are again so
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the one of them will do is curiosity
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based the second email I’ll send out
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would be fact-based then I’ll send out
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one story based and then a scarcity and
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then urgency - to end the campaign love
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that I’m looking at like five emails in
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a campaign you know you can send this
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out Monday through Friday boom you have
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your week affiliate promotion or product
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promotion or whatnot and uh yeah I mean
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it works works amazingly well fantastic
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so tell me with all the obviously them
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blowing millions of emails by now or
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some any other conversion types of
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things that are tips and tricks that our
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listeners
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listening to be implementing their
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business so like this is going to be so
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basic but I mean this literally like was
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a game changer for me but was really
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mailing my list more often okay and I
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found so so Allison I go because that’s
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I always say you know for years I was
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always doing like two or three a week
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because I didn’t want to like overload
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them I don’t want to bother them and
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then there was a period of time after my
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dad was sick and my mom was you know
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kind of wishy washy with everything and
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I didn’t email my list for a few months
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and it was almost like they forgot about
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me and like we always we always think
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like are they always remember us and
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they care and they don’t really care you
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know if you look at your Gmail box right
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now in two days
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the whole page is going to be completely
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different and you’re probably going to
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forget about any of those emails that
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were on that page today and so your
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prospects are like this too you know we
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think that they care as marketers but
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they you know they you know they’re
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overwhelmed or just like we are so right
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you have to mail frequently okay
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I’m a lever II day every single day
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sometimes I mail twice a day when I
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started emailing every day my revenues
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went up probably like 2 or 3 X just for
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mailing every day and it’s so stupid I
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have got friends of a niche I’ve got one
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friend who I mean this guy’s the king of
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sending emails I mean it blows me away I
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think he sent two or three a day maybe
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four sometimes every day they’re still
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in the dating niche yeah so it’s still
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in a dating niche however I needed to
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get some legitimacy because I’m married
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and still you know I just wanted to not
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tell people that I was imitating bitch
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anymore so that’s in like 12 years
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already so I started a golf offer like
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two two years ago and I’ve got an old
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friend of mine from high school that
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found me on Facebook saw me on some
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internet marketing DVDs and couldn’t
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sell this golf product so we rebranded
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it rebuilt it put a whole email system
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kind of like what I’m talking to you now
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and yeah I mean it’s crushing I think
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it’s like the number one offer on
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Clickbank for for golf crazy so how
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often you email a golf list the golfing
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is it you know believe it or not it’s
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completely automated it completely at
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this point so it’s got like a 30-day
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sequence for
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non-buyers and and then if they don’t
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buy they get moved into a different
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sequence where they’re getting a mix of
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content video you know YouTube videos
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and offers affiliate offers and then
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once they buy there’s a another 30-day
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sequence which so the more stuff gets
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them to consume the product give them
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more bonuses etc so to that business
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literally for me is hands-free at this
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point it’s just all split testing the
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funnel and Facebook ads that’s fantastic
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so I know you with autoresponder
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analytics when did you start that well I
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got the idea a few years ago is that a
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seminar if you got you know the guys
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mind valley.com of course I’m sure I’m
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sure you know they’re like a huge like
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eight figure your company so I was at a
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marketing seminar and I the guy from
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mind values ition he’s the the CEO he
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was on stage speaking and he was talking
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about how they keep track of their
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emails and I was like my ears perked up
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at this point because you know anything
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email so he you know they had it slide
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with an Excel spreadsheet like I should
18:49
like a graphic and he’s like this is how
18:51
we keep track of all of our emails I
18:53
have like my virtual assistants they
18:54
spend like two or three hours a day
18:56
going between all these different
18:57
systems and they put it on his
18:58
spreadsheet I’m thinking like are you
19:01
crazy
19:01
like these guys are doing like eight
19:03
figures a year there’s got to be some
19:05
kind of software that does this and I
19:07
asked I asked him afterwards and he said
19:10
no there’s nothing we haven’t found
19:12
anything that did it and uh oh my god I
19:14
was in spreadsheet hell as well I had v
19:17
A’s doing the same thing they were doing
19:19
I hired guys off of Elance and up work
19:21
to make these like complex spreadsheets
19:23
but I had no clue how to use and I tried
19:27
$500 a month software you know that they
19:30
would charge you to like do like an
19:32
onboarding thing so it was not it was
19:35
horrible so you know I had this idea I
19:37
did this you know I bought this domain
19:39
name and I never did anything with it
19:40
kind of like everybody does like most
19:42
people do right so I was at a mastermind
19:45
I this guy at another marketing seminar
19:48
again you’ll hear the constant theme
19:51
marketing seminars yeah go to as many
19:53
marketing seminars as possible you have
19:55
to you have to if you’re serious about
19:57
this business you have to that will two
20:00
or three extra business
20:02
by going to events so I met this guy in
20:05
the hallway at one of the events turns
20:07
out he was a speaker at the event I was
20:09
at and he shared his story how he went
20:12
from like nothing to making like 500
20:14
million dollars and this guy’s like 33
20:17
years old so we struck up a friendship
20:19
and we kept in touch and I mean for me
20:23
by far I mean like by far I come from a
20:25
very blook my dad was a mechanic my mom
20:27
worked in the department store so I’m
20:29
very very middle-class family for me to
20:32
meet somebody like that was that was
20:34
like life-altering to me you know
20:36
awesome like I mean that was like so
20:39
amazing and I think people think people
20:41
come into your life for different
20:42
reasons things everything happens you
20:44
know in life for different different
20:45
reasons you know like my dad passed away
20:46
I don’t know why it happened but it
20:48
helped bring me closer to my mom and my
20:49
sister so that’s the that’s the benefit
20:52
that was the blessing from that right
20:53
with this guy I don’t know why he was
20:55
brought into my life but at this
20:57
mastermind he asked me what are you
20:59
working on and I told him this idea that
21:01
I just told you about this you know this
21:03
stem seminar that I had I saw on my
21:06
frustrations with emails and stuff and
21:08
he I told him out the software idea I
21:11
had and he said this is a really good
21:12
idea you know the market needs it you
21:14
need to build it I was like really cuz
21:18
you know if you have your ideas and he
21:19
wants it in and you know you just have
21:21
like you’re crazy ten o’clock at night
21:23
serious idea but to hear confirmation
21:25
from a guy to Swartz five hundred
21:26
million dollars that’s done this before
21:28
and saying it gets build it so I’d never
21:31
built software in my life before and uh
21:35
sketched it all out on my journal and
21:38
took pictures of my iPhone and I started
21:41
sending them to different developers I
21:42
was interviewing and I found one group
21:45
of developers that really got it and
21:47
understood it and that was two years ago
21:50
so it it literally took two years to
21:54
build yeah that’s awesome
21:56
congratulations thank you thank you it’s
21:59
been a long long crazy crazy rift well
22:04
that’s awesome
22:05
well I note where the process you guys
22:07
you look at some different ways as far
22:08
as integrating with quick files on that
22:10
as we get close to wrapping things up
22:11
any other conversion type of tips or
22:13
tricks you want to make sure that our
22:14
listeners are aware
22:16
email your list you know your would I
22:19
I’m in the clickfunnels group I’m active
22:22
in the Kukuanas group I mean I’m I’m
22:24
saying this for you guys because I know
22:26
who this is going out to listen to what
22:29
Russell was teaching you like like
22:32
seriously I mean I’ve known Medina for a
22:34
decade okay what he’s teaching you is
22:36
real
22:37
what he’s teaching it works the software
22:39
clickfunnels is amazing I don’t use it
22:41
because I have the curse of being able
22:43
to build all this stuff myself but I’ve
22:46
used it for other people that I know for
22:48
clients and it’s amazing I mean the
22:49
stuff that he’s teaching everybody is
22:51
it’s amazing I see the case studies in
22:53
the group I mean the people posting the
22:55
results it’s I mean I’m trying not to
22:57
f-bomb but that’s crazy man it’s real we
23:02
appreciate it very much
23:03
great well again I mean like if there’s
23:06
anything I can share anything email your
23:10
lists email your customers have your
23:13
sequences set up and make sure you’re
23:16
trapping your emails you know I’m
23:18
obviously I’m saying that for a reason
23:19
but you know make sure you’re tracking
23:21
your emails whether it’s with my
23:22
software or something else track your
23:24
emails so you can improve your system
23:26
you know like you wouldn’t track you
23:28
wouldn’t do Facebook Ads without
23:29
tracking them right why would you do
23:32
email without tracking it I love it well
23:35
Dave thank you so much for being on the
23:36
call today I really appreciate taking
23:37
time and again your graduates with all
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