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welcome to funnel hacker radio podcast
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hacker radio I’m your host Dave Woodward
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today you guys are in for a fun
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experience we have the opportunity to
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bring it on John Jonas John welcome to
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the show
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hey anything from I’m glad to have you
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here so John’s a great friend of mine
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also he is the founder of online jobs
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dot pH pH standing for the Philippines
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and where he talked a little bit today
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about outsourcing and VA s and all that
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kind of fun stuff what actually works
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what doesn’t work what things you should
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look for when you’re wanting to bring
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someone else in and how you can actually
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do this so with all that said John let’s
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guys just dive right into this whole
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idea as far as outsourcing so how did
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you get involved in this thing so that
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that’s always a fun question over there
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I was not I was not a missionary there I
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did serve a mission for the LDS Church
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but I was in Brazil Brazil the
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Philippines I know dude everybody always
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asks I’m just a mission there no I
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didn’t so I was actually I taught a
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class at at Brigham Young University one
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day and I I team taught it with the
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owner of bat country calm and we didn’t
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know each other ahead of time but the
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the guy who was teaching the class
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brought us both in and and after class
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we were both talking and he he was
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obviously running like a billion dollar
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business an enormous business and and we
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were doing some similar things his was a
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side business and mine was like my main
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main business and he he says you know
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when you’re ready to start outsourcing
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some of this stuff make sure you go to
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the Philippines with it and I was like
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wow that’s different you know and I said
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why and he said well because in India
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when you tell them something and they
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say yes that means yes I heard something
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come out of your mouth it does not mean
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yes I understood what you said and that
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was my reaction to I was like Oh super
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different man you know and and I and I
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think it kind of just gave me a little
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bit of hope that that there might be
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something different than what I had
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experience cuz I had tried it in India
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and I had tried oDesk which is now up
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work and I had tried hiring people
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locally and and it was hard and when he
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told me that it it kind of gave me hope
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that I might have a different experience
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and he gave me a reference to where I
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could hire someone and I did and it
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completely changed my life
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that’s crazy kind of yeah your whole
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life is outsourced as I recall yeah I
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mean I mean Johnny you basically you
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just don’t do anything but basically
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just sit down all day long and wait for
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someone else to do your stuff right
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every time I every time I hang out with
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Russell he’s always like man I need to
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be more like you and I’m because like I
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wanna I should be more dedicated like he
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it’s he should work less like I do yeah
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I mean I work about 17 hours a week and
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every everything is I don’t do anything
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in my business other than just to tell
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other people what to do and those people
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are all in the Philippines I think it’s
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fascinating so let’s go talk about so
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obviously our funnel hacker community
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here we’ve got you know over 57,000
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customers using click files all sorts of
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different skill levels and everything
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else what what types of things can they
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what types things can they outsource and
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how do they pick the right outsource I
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mean I get questions all the time as far
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as I just don’t want to do this I don’t
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what to do to hire the right people I
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don’t want to train them all that kind
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of stuff so just let’s dive right into
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the mechanics here what what works ok so
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I mean there’s a couple options one you
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can hire a freelancer right and and I
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want to clarify the difference here you
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can have a freelancer someone you hire
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on a like per project basis and you’re
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gonna hire that person that upwork.com
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or I think clickfunnels has some you
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know people that are trained on
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clickfunnels that will do something for
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you and this I hear is John doesn’t like
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freelancers I I don’t
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no because they don’t care about your
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business there once you pay them they’re
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gone and so any work or any effort that
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you put into bringing them out to speed
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in your business you lose that work or
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effort and and the next time you need
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something else done you have to go
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through that process again and I I just
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learned a long time ago that freelancers
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don’t help build a business they help
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you get something done but it doesn’t
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ever take any load off of you
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to hire a freelancer a contract worker
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someone per project right so that that
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you’ll never get to the 4-hour workweek
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doing it that way and so anything that
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I’m going to talk about today you can
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assume that I’m talking about hiring
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someone to work for you long term in
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your business whether they’re a
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part-time or full-time doesn’t matter
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but it’s a long term permanent hire I
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think that’s a real important thing
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because I’ve done both I’ve done the
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freelancer thing and the only time
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that’s never worked for me
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freelancer is fine for a graphic project
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or for some something where you’re
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trying to get something design or
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something real quick at least from my
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experience as long as you find the right
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people but if you want something like
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when you’re building your funnel you
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want something where someone’s working
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with you and you’re on it or your taxes
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or or anything that has some scalability
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to it at least from my experience you
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can’t be doing a freelancer does your
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right they just don’t care yeah and yeah
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you’re absolutely right and and then
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long-term you know like you hired
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someone who built your funnel your
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photos gonna change yeah you know and
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and do you want to go back and have to
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hire someone else to change your funnel
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that sucks you know or or someone built
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your funnel and now you want to add to
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it you want to add it an email
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integration or or you want to change
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your shopping car you want to you know
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whatever it is now you have to go hire
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someone else or no you want to start
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doing some SEO or some paid advertising
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and now you gotta hire someone else you
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know there there’s just there’s
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something with hiring someone who’s
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intelligent and having them do things
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for you because you’re teaching them how
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to do what they’re doing that takes a
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load off of you timewise and mentally so
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like very first person I ever hired was
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a programmer and I’m a programmer where
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I was
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so I that first guy who told me when I
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when I taught that class he told me to
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hire someone and I went back and forth
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for a couple months I waffled like I
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don’t know if I can hire someone to keep
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I don’t know if they can do is good of a
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job as I am I don’t know if I can keep
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them busy full-time I don’t know if I
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can afford it
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I ended up hiring someone and it was the
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most liberating experience of my life
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his full-time job was to do anything I
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asked him to do and so he started he did
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he did the programming that I had
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currently been doing and all of a sudden
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I was free to focus on other things and
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that changed right there what I realized
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I didn’t realize that then I’ve realized
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that over the years is my brain is
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really really good at solving problems
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in my business and coming up with
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solutions at creating marketing things
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or sales processes whatever it is when
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I’m not bogged down with whatever detail
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that I’m currently bogged down in my
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business and so hiring that full-time
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person lets you step away and work on
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your business instead of in your
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business and so that that you ask the
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original question was what works this is
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what works is hire hire someone long
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term permanent in your business so how
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do you actually go about I mean the
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hardest part I know for a lot of
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entrepreneurs when they’re in this
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situation I’ve gone through this myself
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and that is like gosh I don’t know it’s
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what you just said I know they can’t do
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it as well as I can
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am I gonna have to managing these people
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is it really gonna save me time so how
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do you go about finding the right people
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so I’m not sure you’re not gonna like
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this as you can see John will go back
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and forth we’re good friends on this
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thing so I’m not sure that’s even the
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right question okay cuz so what is the
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right question there all right so can
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can they do it as well as I can
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well that programmer was better than I
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was and and I and I didn’t think that
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was possible right other some other
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things like can they can they write as
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well as I can well you know like they’re
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not gonna write my style as well as I
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can there but I hate writing so I’m not
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gonna write and so it’s getting done
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whether it’s as good as I do it or not
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it doesn’t matter because it’s getting
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done so how do you
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find the good that right person that
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that’s the question everybody wants to
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know how do you how do you recruit
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someone who doesn’t suck yeah yes for a
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lot of people it’s limited resource
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they’re going to spend this money I
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gotta make sure it works yeah and you
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know for a lot of people here’s here’s
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the real the real kicker a lot of people
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approach this from the perspective of
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they’re hiring a freelancer a contract
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worker right because that’s all they’ve
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ever known
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and so in hire a contract worker you
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start off with the assumption that I
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don’t have enough time I can’t train
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this person because I don’t have enough
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time I can’t work with this person I
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can’t spend any time on this person
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because they don’t work for me long long
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term I can’t spend any energy on this
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person because they don’t they’re not my
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employee right so I’m gonna flip all of
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those things on their head and say if
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you hire a full-time person you can
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spend time on this person you can spend
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time training because now they’re gonna
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do something you’re currently doing
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which is gonna give you a couple hours
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back and if you spend twenty minutes of
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those two hours training them you’re so
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far ahead you can invest in this
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relationship because they’re gonna give
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you time back right okay so now that
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you’ve started your recruiting with
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those assumptions in mind it makes a lot
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of sense to spend some time recruiting a
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person to do something that you know how
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to do and when you recruit someone to do
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something you know how to do you’re so
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much more well equipped to find someone
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who’s really good so for me in the
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beginning I was recruiting a programmer
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and I’m good at programming and so I was
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so much more capable at at finding a
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good programmer and the person that I
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that I found his blog was a page rank
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six at the time which is ridiculous
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right because he had written a couple
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WordPress plugins that that like
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hundreds of thousands of people were
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using the guy was incredibly talented
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and he was making two hundred and fifty
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dollars a month for full-time work
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yeah just just silly and that’s not the
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going rate for someone like that today
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that’s this is your twelve years ago but
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the point is when you when you pick
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something that you are currently doing
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and you recruit someone to do that thing
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that you’re doing your ability to
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recruit is so much better than if you go
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out to find someone to do something you
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don’t know how to do if you’re not a
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programmer you don’t have a program in
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the very first person you recruit is a
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programmer I have a really hard time
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telling you how to pick someone who’s
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doesn’t suck now I I have some things
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that I can tell you to do but my but the
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very first thing is to kind of change
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what you’re recruiting for and and get
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some time back in your life and find if
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you’re currently writing articles or
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writing social media poster or doing
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whatever you know doing social media
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whatever it is find someone to do that
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for you if you’re currently building
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your final and you know how and you’re
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modifying and tweaking it find someone
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to take over your click funnel for you
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teach them and then you’re gonna get
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some time back in your life and you know
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how to recruit that person you know the
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skills they need you know you know
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what’s important in recruiting them I
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think that’s fantastic I think spreads
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and best advice is too often people want
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to have hire someone where they don’t
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know the skill themself and it’s a lot
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easier to hire someone where you already
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know the skill and just by that time
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back yeah buy yourself some time in your
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life and then you can move on to someone
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who hiring someone to do something you
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don’t how to do cuz you can definitely
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do it but the first thing to do is
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something that you do know how to do I
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love that what else should they be
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looking for
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okay so here’s here’s my recruitment
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process number one I do I do my own
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recruiting and and that’s that’s key
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everybody always comes to us and they’re
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like oh I want someone to do it for me
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because it’s too hard and and I know
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because we’ve done this hundreds of
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times if we recruit someone for you our
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which we don’t do very much our chances
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of success are 50/50 just
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we’re pretty good at it but it’s not my
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chance of success of recruiting someone
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for myself is like 80 80 percent I think
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that’s something people have to
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understand that’s really critical is you
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can’t outsource that part it’s kinda
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like you don’t outsource you’d love
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making we you want to make sure that I
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mean you’re bringing someone in here so
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invest in that recruiting time invest in
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that time where you’re like you know
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what I’m gonna recruit this person and
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bring them on my team and spend that
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time yeah and that will make you so much
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better after you’ve hired them it’ll
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it’ll make it’ll turn them into a
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rockstar much faster if you do the
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recruiting yourself okay so here’s
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here’s a couple recruiting tips number
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one do not do a Skype interview and that
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goes against everything that everybody
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always says I think a lot of people just
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like to repeat a good idea that they
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hear that sounds good right interview
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them via Skype no don’t do a Skype
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interview Filipinos don’t want to do a
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Skype interview if you insist on doing a
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Skype interview
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you’re gonna lose good potential
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recruits because they’re scared there’s
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a guy okay I’m just gonna be out I’ll
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testify to that one for sure I have I
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did that I did that a couple times and
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they were so apologetic the entire time
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they were we’re there because I did this
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interview with a video camera and
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they’re like totally embarrassed of
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their conditions and where they’re at
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and I’m like oh my gosh it just made
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such an awkward terrible terrible
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terrible yeah yeah don’t do it
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skip the Skype in view unless this
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person is gonna be talking on the phone
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for you like talking to customers then
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do a phone Skype interview not a video
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one okay second when you’re recruiting
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send lots of emails and ask lots of
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questions so here’s what I’ll do
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I will start with you know are you
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looking for a job yes okay tell me why I
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should hire you I don’t want to hear
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because you’re hardworking and you’re
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dedicated in whatever I I wasn’t
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creative tell me something creative
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about yourself and then from there I’ll
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move on to asking two or three or four
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questions per email for three or four or
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five or ten
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emails and I want to ask lots and lots
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of questions because what I have found
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is this is a this is a remote worker
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right you don’t get to sit in an office
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with them so there are different
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characteristics that I need that are
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different from an office like in an
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office I know you’re sitting here every
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day remote I don’t know that and so when
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I when I ask these questions I number
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one I get to see their English and you
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know it’s it’s reasonable to fake a
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profile on online jobs dot pH it’s you
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know it’s reasonable to have so your
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friend help you write your profile it’s
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not reasonable to have your friend
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respond to questions over and over and
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over again so you can just see their
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English and just so you know you know in
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a technical position this is completely
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the English skills are not important
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programmers designers webmaster English
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is not not relevant their social media
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writing it’s important right okay so
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number two I get to see their
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responsiveness if if they respond every
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day or twice a day or within an hour
16:38
after I email them while I’m recruiting
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them the chances of them responding
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really quickly after I’ve hired them are
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really high if it takes them two days to
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respond while I’m recruiting then after
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they’re after I’ve hired them it’s gonna
16:51
janseva taking them two days to respond
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is really high and that doesn’t work for
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me in a remote relationship where if
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you’re not responding for two or three
16:59
days I don’t know if you’re working at
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all because you’re not in the office
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with me
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right okay so the other thing that does
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is it lets me gauge their attention to
17:09
detail because for me in my brain I need
17:13
someone else who’s very detail-oriented
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because I’m not and so it it tells me if
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I ask you four questions and you only
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respond to three of them well when I
17:23
give you four tasks to do you’re only
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gonna do that right and that doesn’t
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work for me
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so in my recruiting process I always ask
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lots of questions over lots of emails
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and get lots of communication and I find
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I usually find that it I end up with a
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gut feeling and that gut feeling is
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usually pretty correct so
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actually hire someone then if you’re
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going back and forth like this is this
17:47
week’s is days it depends depends on the
17:50
person right like if they’re responding
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if I if I start an interview process
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with them if I start emailing them and
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they’re responding immediately I might
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get five emails in in an hour and be
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like yeah I want to hire you when can
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you start tomorrow okay great
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here’s your first task right it can
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literally take an hour it could take two
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weeks you know like if I maybe I’m not
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feeling great about this first person
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maybe maybe I’m now recruiting someone
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else and you know maybe I’m not getting
18:18
what I wanted the first time so it could
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take up weeks but but usually like if
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you’re talking to someone and you decide
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this is I want to hire this person it’s
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like okay start tomorrow great let’s do
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it I love it so what are some things I
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know you outdoors everything but what
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give people some ideas as far as what
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are some of the things normal businesses
18:42
owners would outsource and then worsen
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the wild crazy things that you’re
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outsourcing so one of the things I would
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say do not outsource is creative
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marketing so like don’t don’t hire
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someone to you’re building a quick
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funnel don’t hire someone to write your
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message like you’re the business owner
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you know the customers you need to write
19:10
your message you need to be the creative
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person I’m not saying you have to create
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the creative you know design is you can
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hire a designer to do that but you
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should drive the messaging you know
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don’t hire someone in the Philippines to
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create customer-facing marketing
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materials unless you’re involved in it
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and then it’s fine do hire someone to
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manage your clickfunnels do hire someone
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to manage your social media I’ll tell
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you this is something that people are
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super hesitant about I hate Facebook and
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and I I just feel like it’s the biggest
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time suck and so it dude it’s like
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it sucks you if you if you even glanced
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at it it just sucks
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and you just wasted an hour right um so
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for years I avoided it and and two of
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the girls in the Philippines that work
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for me we’re always like we got to do
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more on Facebook can we do this on
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Facebook can we start doing social media
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marketing I’m like no we can’t because I
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don’t I don’t know how to do it and I
20:16
don’t want to be involved in it so
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finally they presented me a plan with
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like here’s what we can do and and I’m
20:24
finally like okay fine you guys could
20:26
use kiss I felt bad saying no to them
20:28
all the time when they’re trying to
20:29
improve my business you know and and so
20:33
I was like fine write me some example
20:35
posts of what you’re gonna do and they
20:37
sent me some stuff and I was like okay
20:38
you know I mean this is this is
20:40
reasonable I would have changed this in
20:41
this mess and I turned them on I turned
20:43
him on to write and for the first like
20:44
couple of weeks I was checking
20:46
everything and making sure and then I
20:48
stopped because I was like okay you guys
20:50
you guys know what you’re doing better
20:51
than I do here so today all my jobs has
20:55
like I don’t know 160,000 likes you know
20:59
if we’ve never done anything anything
21:03
sneakier or we never bought like sign
21:05
it’s like it’s all legitimate and I’ve
21:09
never made a single post
21:11
that’s impressive John not surprising
21:14
but impressive so so I mean there’s like
21:16
crazy amounts of stuff you can outsource
21:18
design programming webmaster social
21:21
media content writing customer service
21:23
admin web map you know anything that can
21:27
be done online can be outsourced or
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insourced
21:29
I love that super cool so as people
21:33
start looking obviously I mean you have
21:36
online jobs dot pH what are some of the
21:38
things they need to be looking for when
21:39
they’re they’re working with a company
21:41
like yours what should they be looking
21:48
for know what how do they pick the right
21:51
agency to work with that’s a good that’s
21:54
a that’s actually a really good question
21:55
okay so there’s a couple ways to find
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someone that’s really what you’re asking
21:59
where do you find someone so I own
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online jobs dot pH but let me start with
22:03
another option we’ve already talked to
22:06
it up work where you’re gonna hire a
22:07
freelancer and in they
22:10
well you know my opinion on it right and
22:13
the problem there is is they’re not
22:15
gonna work for you forever they’re not
22:17
gonna work here for a long time and and
22:18
if you hire someone in the Philippines
22:21
that is not on up work they might work
22:25
for you forever and that’s just how the
22:27
loyalty is in the Philippines it’s it’s
22:28
amazing so you can go through an agency
22:31
to find someone this is how I got
22:33
started in the very beginning because
22:34
there wasn’t another option so there’s
22:37
tons of companies in the Philippines
22:38
where they set up an office in the
22:40
Philippines and they recruit workers and
22:42
they bring them into the office and they
22:43
mark up their salaries and they lease
22:44
them back to you and and that’s fine
22:47
there’s a couple issues where that one
22:49
they mark up the salaries you know so
22:51
like you’re paying $1500 a month and
22:53
they’re paying that worker $400 a month
22:55
but you know okay that’s not that big of
22:59
a deal it’s you know a $10,000 a year
23:01
thing whatever but the other issue is
23:06
that generally you have a recruiting
23:08
pool of like three people right who is
23:14
your option that’s your option right and
23:16
the very first the very first person
23:19
that I had he was great the second
23:24
person sucked and I there was nothing I
23:27
could do about it because I didn’t have
23:28
the option of recruiting for myself
23:31
another option that I’m gonna give you
23:33
is Craigslist you can try crate Manila
23:36
manila Duck craigslist.org but I’ll just
23:38
warn you there are crazy amounts of
23:41
scams on there because it’s all free and
23:43
I mean I heard someone the other day
23:45
tell me I put a job on Craigslist and
23:48
most of the most of the responses were
23:49
from India I’m just saying there’s just
23:53
so much scamming going on there and
23:56
online jobs up pH we’re just a
23:58
marketplace like there’s half a million
24:00
Filipino resumes so you’re gonna go in
24:02
and and recruit the person you want to
24:07
recruit it’s between you and them so
24:09
when when you ask what should someone be
24:11
looking for and looking for a company
24:12
really there’s not that you know there’s
24:15
like you can go through an agency and
24:17
and pay the markup and be limited or you
24:20
can
24:20
do some work yourself and find the
24:25
person another option actually is to do
24:27
some user like a recruiting agency what
24:31
if they don’t have offices in the
24:32
Philippines the people work from home
24:34
but they’ll recruit someone for you and
24:38
you know like I said before we’re pretty
24:41
good at it and it’s like 50/50 you know
24:44
so it’s still just 50/50 nope
24:51
well I appreciate it ton John any
24:53
parting words serious we’re get ready to
24:54
wrap things up here
24:55
anything else you want our users to make
24:57
sure they know this course no I mean the
25:00
reality is you have to try it you know
25:03
you have to you have to try it and see
25:04
like does this work for me because
25:06
otally beer at that you gotta try cuz
25:08
for me saying I work 17 hours a week and
25:10
I’ve seen lots of other people do this
25:12
successfully you know like thousands of
25:14
people do this successfully doesn’t mean
25:15
it’s gonna work for you you know you you
25:17
have to try it and see you know the
25:19
potential downside is you you spend a
25:21
couple hundred dollars the potential
25:22
upside is you get hours and hours back
25:25
in your life and I think that’s the main
25:28
thing I want people is kind of a
25:29
takeaway is no matter where you are in
25:32
your career your business or your life
25:34
the most important thing is your time
25:35
you got to find some way buying back
25:37
time I don’t care if it’s limited hiring
25:39
I think the first thing ever hired in my
25:42
life was a somebody start mowing the
25:43
lawn and then it was a housekeeper and I
25:45
mean it just keeps going from there and
25:46
and all this and you’re like gosh this
25:48
I’m not good at this I don’t like doing
25:50
it why should I do it and I’m I can buy
25:52
back that time and spend spend that time
25:55
with my family and with others that I
25:56
really want to spend time with so I
25:57
think no matter what you got to find
25:59
some way buying back time and online
26:01
jobs not pH is a great place to go ahead
26:03
at least take a start and try it and see
26:06
see if it works for you love it well
26:09
John how did they get ahold if they want
26:10
to reach out so obviously online jobs
26:11
dot pH anything else I know if you don’t
26:16
check Facebook you don’t do anything
26:17
else so I have forced myself to be
26:21
available through Facebook if you want
26:22
to message me on Facebook i’ma get also
26:24
I’m infinitely available through email
26:26
if you use the contact us link online it
26:30
doesn’t come to me if you ask for me it
26:33
will get to me
26:34
so so I’m available that way well I love
26:38
the fact that you you live what you
26:40
preach so that’s pretty cool well John
26:42
thanks good we’ll talk to you real soon
26:43
but talk to later Thanks
26:45
you know one of the things that means a
26:47
ton to me is the personal reviews that
26:49
you guys leave on iTunes you wouldn’t
26:51
mind going out break this show let me
26:53
know how I’m doing
26:54
just go to iTunes click on the episode
26:56
and rate it leave a comment I read all
26:57
the comments I appreciate all the stars
27:00
and everything everyone already left for
27:02
me again I really appreciate it and it’s
27:03
my way of finding out how I’m doing so
27:05
if you don’t mind I’d really appreciate
27:06
it and I again thank you so much for all
27:09
that you guys do have a great day

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