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wow I just finished interviewing Nick
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NAT in a five-time Emmy award-winning
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producer and director and he told me all
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the secrets about how he gets some of
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the greatest people’s stories and this
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really cool principle called story
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selling you guys got to check this out
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interview with Nick Nana hey everybody
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I’m so excited is there you have the
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opportunity like the coolest guy I know
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when it comes to film and movies books
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guys - Nick knack Nick welcome to the
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show thanks for having Dave I’m super
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excited to be on the show heard a lot
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about it and excited to talk with you
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for a few minutes ah this again for
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those who may not know Nick Nick is a
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five-time Emmy award-winning director
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public he also basically is a
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best-selling author wall street you’re a
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best-selling author of the book called
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Corey selling I’ve stolen that title so
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many different times but I want to give
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you props Nick because it obviously came
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from you so I think so and I thank you
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hopefully we can give you hopefully I
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can share much like many of the other
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guests and I’m sure you share to the
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things that I think have helped me to
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accomplish what I’ve achieved so far
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hopefully I’ve got a lot left in me but
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at least if I can shorten the road for
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some people I’d be happy to do that I
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mean Nick five-time award-winning
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director and producer I’m just shocked I
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mean how how did how does it happen yeah
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there’s a lot of uses for that I will
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tell you the funny answer which is also
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true I knew I’ve been working I’ve been
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a songwriter for a long time and I knew
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that winning a Grammy just wasn’t
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getting it closer fast enough so I
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googled how to win an Emmy and I
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followed those instructions that is the
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truth a lot of things had to happen for
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that to work but first of all I at least
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did my research to figure out how viable
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is this right but the real truth is that
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and again that is the truth but decided
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to go deeper you know I decided I wanted
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to make a short short film in about 2010
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about a little boy with Down syndrome
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who played t-ball in Floyds Knobs
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indiana i’m as dad in the airport
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between speaking gigs where it was and
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it was a great story but i
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you you know I knew it wasn’t gonna go
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very far being published in the local
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paper I thought was a great story I
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thought I had that the you know the word
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viral was just starting to get really
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overused then it still is I was like
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maybe I can help this story is just cool
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so I just thought I was gonna make a
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short film about this this story and I I
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did what I still do now in a way I was
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actually at my mastermind
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we held a mastermind for several years
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before the Grammy Awards that would take
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some clients and had a lot of big-name
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people in there that you would know I
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had a lot of people there you wouldn’t
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know but all great business people great
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marketers just good people and they were
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going through the Grammys and we did a
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mastermind together and I said hey I’m
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just gonna spend my time sharing the
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story with you and and then I’ll tell
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you afterwards what I want to do so I
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shared it with my reddit you know
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everyone’s everyone’s crying like babies
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it’s a it’s a happy story but one of
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those you just can’t help but tear up
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and so I said look here’s the deal I’m
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gonna go I want to go make a short film
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I’ve never done this before but I never
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you know you guys all trust me if you’ll
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give me a little bit of money you can be
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a producer if you give me a little more
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money you mean executive producer and
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this is not a money-making venture
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because everyone I ever knows tried to
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make money in movies loses all their
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money so I want to do that so just do it
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if you feel like it’s something you want
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to just learn as I go and you think it’d
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be cool to be part of telling this story
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so interestingly that the biggest name
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people in that room were not the most
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generous the people who were just you
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know running great law firms or whatever
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else were very generous not that there’s
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anything telling and that it was just
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interesting to me and so I went a couple
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months later and I flew into Floyds
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Knobs Indiana and we filmed and we made
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a short doc and we actually did a whole
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campaign around it I decided to talk to
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um you know it was a Bill Harrison and
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and some of those guys done said hey
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everyone does his product launches what
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if we did a product launch maybe once a
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year that wasn’t for us it was just like
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for charity and they’re like that’d be
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awesome so we set up this thing at the
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time called marketers for good if Sebald
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now it’s called entrepreneur national
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and we set up this whole thing we got a
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bunch of people to blast it through the
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list and we raised not as much as I
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would like boo raised the money for kids
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with special needs and you can still see
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that movie at Jacob’s turn calm so I was
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my first film
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we got two Emmy nominations I won an
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Emmy for directing that film so I
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figured I shouldn’t stop and then now I
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just am directing my 60th film that you
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know about actually with with the help
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of you and Russell and and clickfunnels
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in your community and so so I’ve been I
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sort of um really interestingly I would
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say this there’s been so many things
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I’ve done in my life that you know now
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looking back they were really hard I
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think I think that we all have to go
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through some knocks to figure out our
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our real gifts in life where we should
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be our Dan Sullivan cause unique ability
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and like you got to have a lot of
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experiences to come to that but I will
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just say for those of you out there
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searching for something it I almost for
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the first time in my life I almost feel
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guilty about filmmaking because it comes
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so naturally and it’s because I believe
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it’s not because of a talent in the way
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you think of like I direct movies right
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and so my family is like oh so you like
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you shoot the cameras I’m like now
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they’re like oh so you like anything I’m
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like now like so you write the script
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like now they’re like so it’s sort of
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like office space you know so what
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exactly would you say you do around here
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Nick so I really I just kind of put the
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team together and I get the stories put
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together and ultimately it’s I’m
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responsible for making sure it comes out
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with sort of the feel and the look and
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the heart that I wanted to but just rest
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assured that you’re probably not gonna
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get a whole lot better at things you
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really suck at unless you really want to
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which is different so look for the
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things that your skill sets can be used
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in and for me what end up happening was
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my ability to put together people in in
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groups we’ll call it and give them
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amazing experiences like going the
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Grammys or whatever else has has
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converted now into the majority of the
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films that I make are me basically
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taking a group of people on a journey
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with me and they help fund the movies
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and and just as a as transparency it is
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not um it’s not an investment I don’t
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like that model perhaps when I find a
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consistent model that makes money I’ll
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be okay with that but I was much more
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comfortable sharing an experience with
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people that I knew they would be happy
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to pay for and that they would get value
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out of it and there was no question of
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well I didn’t get what I wanted out of
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that so I’ll shut up in a second but
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this is also important on my crew my
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I’ve trademark dis buddy asked me about
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trademark I trademarked the best crew in
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the world that’s literally I have the
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trademark so if you want the best crew
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in the world you have to hire me but my
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crew is not only the best in the world
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at shooting movies they’re also
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spectacularly good at playing the game
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of craps so when we travel around the
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world we go to casinos and we play craps
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and I don’t have the exact numbers don’t
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call me but if we played 10 times I
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walked out with double my money at least
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9 times so these guys are good but I was
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at a craps table after shooting a movie
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recently and I’ve spent I bought us all
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dinner we have the whole cruise you know
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a few hundred bucks 4 or 500 whatever
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was had a great time had good dinner
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some drinks hung out then we go to the
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craps table I only ever spent 300 bucks
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that’s where I’m not that’s my limit I
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realized that these things can become
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addictive and I’m not gonna let it
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happen so I I can with 300 bucks and as
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I get to 200 you know you sort of hope
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you start going up early right so you
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don’t to keep going in your pocket well
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I’m going for the last hundred bucks I’m
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going do I do this or do I not made it
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really sucked if I lose this hundred
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bucks too and it really made me stop and
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think this is the experiences I provide
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my clients they have the dinner
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experience the experience of paying for
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an awesome time with value great
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community great conversation being a
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part of something awesome and I was not
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at all worried about spending five
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hundred dollars for dinner but I was
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worried about another hundred dollars
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when it came to being an investment so
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all that to just tell you is you can do
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things differently and everybody else
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does and the way you position things in
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the end very very likely will have much
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more to do with your customers and
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clients perception of whether it was
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successful or not I love it
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so as craps gonna be funding the next
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project then hey man only a 300 bucks at
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a time so probably not a lot because I’m
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not willing to risk enough to make it
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hurt or make enough money so anyway it’s
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but it’s been fun and my wife loves it
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because I always bring them my winnings
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and say here go shop so also I figured
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out that formula 2 so she keeps
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encouraging me when I go on trips to go
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to the casino again right but I’m
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terrible at gambling I don’t know what
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I’m doing my crew is like math savants
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and they just tell me what to do
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and I just do it and we it works out so
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well that’s what I’m I want to dive
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right into one of the things you were
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just absolutely amazing at is bringing
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people together
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I mean you again take I know I’ve seen
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some of your films already but I mean
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I’m on this amazing amazing film again
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Sullivan’s story amazing film and I mean
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these are guys are not really that easy
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to get there to tell their stories let
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alone yet the people behind you so how
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in the world have you mastered this art
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of people yes so it’s funny I never
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really thought about it as that and
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maybe that’s why it worked because I
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wasn’t I wasn’t trying to connect with
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people for any other reason then you
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know I I wanted to see what we might do
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together I love the dam solvent says you
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know business is a collaboration with
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with the economy basically with
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customers it’s it’s a collaborative
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experience not a one-man show like you
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have to provide something other people
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want and so I’m always been I always ask
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myself like well I we all know what we
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want look when we get out of from very
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basic things to be whether it’s healthy
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certainly healthy if it’s fit if you
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want to have a great relationship with a
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spouse or want to have good friends we
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want to just get up and have a good hot
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breakfast like what is it that you that
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you want to achieve in life and then as
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like we all have these things I mean
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just we’re built this way like how do I
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get what I want but I very quickly
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realized that it’s obviously much more
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fun achieving what you want to achieve
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along with others number one and number
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two it’s way easier to get what you want
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if you give other people what they want
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and you know that’s that’s probably been
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ridden like a wet horse way too often in
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it and it’s almost the same way that
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when people tell me I meet people at all
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these events like well how can I support
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you and it’s like a great question to
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ask but it’s such it’s such a crap
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question in so many ways because if so
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cheeps in some ways some people just
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like the thing I’m supposed to say so I
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sort of hate this advice but I love at
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the same time because if you’re if
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you’re really meaning it works so if I
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was so recently like I got the
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opportunity to tell Larry King’s life
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story it’s just um I want to do so Larry
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agree to let me do it I had to find I
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had to find the money to do it so I went
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to my clients and friends and said hey
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look if you will pay this much money I
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will bring you to LA with me
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you will sit in on my interview Larry
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King you got a photo with Larry get to
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meet Larry you’ll get to be an executive
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booster on a producer on this TV special
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I’ll make it on Larry and for the rest
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of your life you’re gonna have not only
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a great cocktail party conversation but
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you’re gonna be the most interesting guy
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in the room because you have this story
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and you’re gonna be able to have some to
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show for you like yeah I
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executive-produced Larry King’s life
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story like you’re never gonna be
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separated from Larry King’s story like
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that will you’ll go hand in hand with
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that and so that’s how I funded Larry’s
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story aside from the Peters story so I
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had funded Brian Tracy story that’s how
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I funded jack canfield story that’s I’d
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funtage Abraham’s story there I mean
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there’s others I’ve done different ways
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like me and David Berg and Joe polish
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gave Dan saw him in his movie as a gift
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right but most of the films I’d funded
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we’re doing right now on wounded wounded
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warriors who have PTSD and there is an
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organization takes rescue dogs and turns
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them train them to become service dogs
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and and it costs $25,000 just to do this
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process and then they give them to the
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wounded warriors they board them for
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three weeks in a group and teach them
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how to live life with a service dog and
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it literally not not only changes their
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life it gives them a new life they
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called a New Leash on Life which is cute
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but they literally it stops them from
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committing suicide
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like literally because they have a
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friend to go through life with so I
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funded that with 11 friends who said hey
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yeah I will I’d love to go meet these
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wounded warriors I love being part of
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this movie cool I’ve funded movies in
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the ghettos of Acapulco and funny movies
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in the hill tribes of Oaxaca Mexico
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we’ve been the Dominican Republic
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multiple times and so I honestly is just
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in a selfish way it’s me finding stories
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I’m fascinated with and I know that I
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will learn from and then who can I drag
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along with me and what do I need to do
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what sort of value can I give them in
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order to get them to follow crazy next
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on adventures that’s like a big piece of
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my model you know I love that I think
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that’s if people can understand the
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importance of experiences and bringing
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people on I know right now it’s so for
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us you’re about time this actually airs
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live it’ll be already released but we
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actually have we’ve hired you to
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basically go out and film operation
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Underground Railroad but Tim Beck is
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store
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and man I get chills even just on the
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text and the things I was getting back
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from the while you’re in Haiti and Tim
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was here in our office and we’re talking
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about this and I’m like but there’s no
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one better than you to be able to
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capture that kind of a story and for me
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I totally feel like God’s hand has been
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involved in the filming and everything
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as far as how this has come together but
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I think it’s just fascinating bit again
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when Russell was talking back I should
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we do and all this guy stuff and your
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name came up is like yeah of course
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there’s no one else besides Nick to film
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this because of the way you’re able to
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convey story so well and I want to kind
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of talk to you a little bit about this
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whole story selling aspect yeah
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watch the is story selling and how do
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you use it in your I mean your story
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selling experience is all day long yeah
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but what do people use story selling
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yeah at first I want stun just
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acknowledge you guys true and I’m
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honored to do the oh you our story it’s
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like it’s a once in a lifetime story and
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hopefully we can end trafficking or be a
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big piece of that by Tim story I mean
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talk about you want to talk about real
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heroes dude I mean this guy going into
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the ghettos of the world and saving
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children and when I say the ghettos like
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well we were in Haiti so Haiti is a
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sketchy country and I don’t mean that
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against their people it’s just very
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corrupt there’s a lot of things working
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against it it’s a very sad thing but it
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is a and we were in the sketchiest
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neighborhood in the weird part of Haiti
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in a country that’s already and this end
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and I was scared out of my mind and I
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was there for two days and Tim does this
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like on a weekly basis it’s like
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mind-blowing so anyway I’m super honored
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to do it but I think so where I think
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people get lost in story this is
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actually when I don’t have articulate
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this way when I when I do Larry King
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story or Peter story or I’m I’m probably
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gonna get hard to do a really high
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profile story coming up here that is a
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very controversial figure he’s not
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trapped in all this all the sexual stuff
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not right now thankfully but he’s very
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controversial in a political realm and
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what the reason I’m interested in doing
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is because I have a basic human belief
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of faith that at the end of the day
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we’re pretty much who we are because
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because of where we are in life and the
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and the things that have happened along
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the way to put us in the position we are
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whether we’re jaded about something
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super excited about something whether we
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both whether the the sound of a certain
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song makes me happy or makes me cry
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because my sixth grade girlfriend broke
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up with me like it’s just it’s like a
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result of these things we go through and
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so the reason I’m interested in doing is
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because at the end of the day we’re all
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humans and there’s way more in common
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than we have than uncommon and even at
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the weirdest level of making this movie
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on on human trafficking which is one of
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the biggest travesties one most evil
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things in the world I mean I just I went
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through in my mind and this is gonna
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sound really twisted I hope you can
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understand it
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I went to mind what would it take to
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traffic somebody like why why would
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someone even do that is it no Aussie I
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had the exact same thought when I was
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talking to Tim I mean we’re related and
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I’ve remember we were at the beach when
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I was talking how what does it take for
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personally what’s that state of mind
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where they can feel comfortable doing it
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yeah and and I don’t know they ever feel
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comfortable but they do it because in so
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many ways systemically it just sort of
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seems I mean societally it said or like
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wherever they are it it’s it’s not so
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taboo you won’t do it and and it’s
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systemically you’re looking out for
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yourself and like their traffickers who
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traffic other children to feed their own
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children now that’s really messed up and
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strange but at the end of the day I I
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hope that through things like what Tim
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is doing and some rehabilitation of not
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only the children but on some day maybe
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we get to rehabilitating the traffickers
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and people who end up in prison systems
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and stuff because that’s a long road to
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hoe but at the end of the day we are all
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humans and we have more in time that we
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have uncommon and I love the fact that
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when I interview Peter we talked about
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space and all that but we got to human
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Peters basic basic desire you know to
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change the world to go to space we get
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to Larry King’s just it’s really funny
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probably the most successful people I’ve
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ever met all of them gave me one
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this answer somewhere and where I ask
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them like why do you do what you do why
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do you think you are where you are and
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all set of one way or the other I’m
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insanely curious like I’m really really
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really curious and I it comes out the
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weirdest I’m IRA computer heard from
17:55
Larry heard it from like everybody
17:56
really and I think in the other day
17:57
that’s why we all do what we do on some
18:00
level but I love telling these stories
18:02
because I’m trying to get I’m trying to
18:05
show everybody why you can do this - why
18:09
why Peter’s insanely crazy dude who
18:12
wants the first private spaceship that’s
18:14
insane
18:15
while Richard Branson and Mark Cuban who
18:17
they’re but you know what and the end of
18:19
the day the more I dig into this stuff
18:21
it’s really because they they had a
18:24
really big why obviously because they’re
18:27
really curious for that just keeps
18:28
coming up so I’m gonna pay attention to
18:30
that so we call a theme so to keep the
18:32
intent to that and then third it’s like
18:35
so I have a really big why I’m really
18:38
curious and I’m I’m not and I’m trying
18:41
to help people I’m trying to do
18:42
something that I think will genuinely
18:44
help the world and that’s like never
18:48
gets old because I know for me as a kid
18:50
in the GarageBand trying to get a record
18:52
deal I wanted to I wanted to know that
18:55
that was possible you know I just did
18:57
Rudy’s movie right before my play Rudy
18:58
where we just did a premiere in LA where
19:01
we’re in the middle of negotiating
19:03
distribution on a major platform but it
19:05
like Rudy story is like every every
19:07
person is an underdog in some way shape
19:10
or form their life but everyone
19:12
resonates for that story and I love the
19:14
fact that even a Rudy was a feature film
19:19
that is with actors and everything like
19:21
I don’t do those I do documentaries or
19:23
thus far that’s what I’ve really enjoyed
19:24
doing I don’t know that I want to do
19:26
features I’m sort of questioning that I
19:27
don’t think so but who knows but I love
19:30
Rudy’s story because because even if a
19:34
feature film and even a fictional
19:36
feature of him even a movie like I don’t
19:39
I mean god there’s so many the one I’m
19:41
thinking of Good Will Hunting let’s say
19:43
or Dead Poets Society or I mean these
19:46
things can literally change your outlook
19:47
at whatever you’re experiencing they can
19:50
literally shift what your next move is
19:52
and is everyone of them gonna be you
19:55
know I’ve heard Think and Grow Rich and
19:57
in some way credited for making people
19:59
successful and
20:00
will it be is that the or any of these
20:02
movies or films the pivotal moment I
20:04
don’t know but if I could spend my time
20:07
that I have limited here on earth thanks
20:10
to Peter is getting longer hopefully if
20:12
I could spend my time inspiring people
20:14
through the experiences that I’m getting
20:17
to have and I get to have more than
20:18
experiences and share more that stuff
20:20
with people well I mean well first of
20:22
all why not but obviously in a way I’ve
20:24
become convicted that’s what I’m
20:25
supposed to be doing and so I just
20:27
really try to get to the core of what in
20:29
this person’s life is instructive and
20:31
can be instructive for someone else
20:34
who’s trying to achieve anything and you
20:36
know Peters story Peter story is insane
20:38
obviously one of the best things about
20:40
it I use all the time my speeches you
20:42
know I interviewed Richard Branson about
20:44
it because he ends up buying the
20:46
technology from the winning team turned
20:49
down the sponsorship like four times
20:50
ends up buying the technology 20 my
20:53
Richard why didn’t you just sponsor he
20:55
goes well Peter came for me he’s a
20:56
really bright guy James hooked me but
20:58
unfortunately listen this we’re always
21:00
doing too many things and strapped for
21:02
cash and I’m like what wait what so
21:04
Richard Branson doing too many things
21:06
strapped for cash okay I feel that way
21:08
and basically I’m always gonna throw
21:10
that way cuz Richard Branson feels oh
21:12
wait okay that’s validating I’m good
21:13
with that and then second of all he’s
21:15
like Peter he launched a ten million
21:19
dollar prize and he did not have ten
21:21
million dollars and the way he literally
21:23
got the money
21:24
was with hole-in-one golf tournament
21:26
insurance they bet against the fact that
21:29
they could not build a spaceship in this
21:31
period of time that would actually go to
21:32
space and they did they had to pay out
21:34
the insurance policy but those two
21:35
things alone could change someone’s
21:37
course of action if you go well Dan so
21:40
repeater read you know the book about
21:42
the spirit of st. Louis and the first
21:43
you know transatlantic flight and he he
21:46
thought about wait it was a prize that
21:49
got that happen how could I use a prize
21:51
to get to space look it it could be one
21:53
of those things and if like sort of my
21:56
audacious goal would be like how did I
21:58
make enough films that would have enough
22:00
nuggets in them that would inspire and
22:02
help a billion people on their path to
22:03
doing cooler things like sort of sort of
22:06
two ethereal to really get anyone behind
22:09
it but like so I’ll work on my wording
22:11
don’t don’t wrong
22:12
but but that’s what I’m doing and so
22:14
I’ve been blessed with guys like you you
22:16
guys in Russell like supporting me going
22:19
to tell another story and there’s so
22:20
much hope in that story and I was so
22:22
great talking to Russell about the
22:24
operation of McGann railroad and
22:25
trafficking story of wheat I want to
22:27
tell the story of redemption and of hope
22:29
there’s a lot of darkness in this and
22:31
you can get I could I can make 27 hours
22:34
worth of fascinating raid footage and
22:38
I’ll and that’ll be a big part of movie
22:39
don’t get me wrong we got Tony Robbins I
22:41
got Glenn Beck we got and we got raids
22:43
and we got you know we did a raid in
22:45
Haiti and the rest of the transients
22:47
it’s sort of like interesting see the
22:50
edge of the world stuff but the end of
22:51
the day it’s a big problem that I want
22:54
to I want to project hope on
22:57
can we stop every human being or being
23:00
trafficked I would love that
23:01
but I would still love to find hope and
23:03
even just the four we just rescued and
23:05
that’s him just rescued a thousand kid
23:08
there’s still millions out there which
23:10
is so sad but how do we find some hope
23:12
and and how do we make sure guys like
23:15
Tim can keep going because people are
23:17
finding hope for redemption and what
23:19
he’s already doing yeah I love it
23:21
again I love what you’re doing Nick
23:23
you’re just a master at really getting
23:25
those kind of stories out without taking
23:27
again I you and I were talking earlier
23:29
it’s one of those things where you’re
23:30
like yeah I can make this a real
23:32
terrible vicious type of victim
23:33
mentality wants to be a movie that our
23:36
kids can watch your daughter can watch
23:38
where you know it that oh I get it
23:40
and yeah I appreciate that skill and the
23:43
talent that you have and being able to
23:45
portray it in a way that really conveys
23:47
that while the same time gets the
23:48
message out that we need to help these
23:49
people
23:50
well thanks Emma it’s a tall task on
23:52
this movie for sure I I don’t know my
23:55
daughter is sick so she will not be
23:56
watching anytime soon I said that but
23:58
yeah even my even my boys heard me
24:01
talking about a trafficking movie oh
24:02
what’s that
24:03
and I have a almost thirteen year old
24:05
and some hard conversation to have and
24:07
and not only buying and selling people
24:11
but the sexual side is just very
24:12
complicated and so it’s remains yet to
24:16
be seen how how young an audience I can
24:19
make this form still make it effective
24:20
but that is the really cool charge with
24:22
all these like most important how do we
24:24
make it redemptive and how do we
24:26
so that it’s a tool as opposed to just
24:28
you know a sensationalistic thing that’s
24:31
like how terrible is this how cool these
24:33
raids how cool these Navy SEALs and
24:35
again you can’t get past all that but we
24:38
find more in it and and I think you know
24:41
it’s a tough line to walk but we’re
24:42
doing we’re doing our best I’m I’m I’m
24:44
proud of what we’re what we’re doing
24:46
with it and I think it’ll come out in a
24:48
way that is it certainly a different
24:50
look at it for a lot of people well I
24:51
can’t wait to see it and again it’ll be
24:53
fascinating for us it’s been fun working
24:55
with Tim on it as well so tell me you
24:57
want to get a hold out of the reach out
24:59
today
24:59
yeah I think brother you just way to
25:01
sort of keep up with all things that I’m
25:03
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25:17
course I’m on social media and
25:19
everywhere else but I mean I mean I’d
25:21
love you know I’m always looking for
25:23
great stories great stories have to have
25:25
funding so thanks to guys like you and
25:28
Russell that are willing to step up and
25:29
fund some of these but we also do a lot
25:31
of cool things where we take people sort
25:34
of around the world and work on
25:35
different people’s different
25:36
organization stories I’m always looking
25:38
for people who want to join in that in
25:40
that fight so well Nick any parting word
25:42
before we like to go I mean I would just
25:44
say look whatever whatever you’re doing
25:46
right now just just keep fighting the
25:49
good fight but keep looking for the
25:51
things that are easier than they should
25:52
be that’s that’s that’s God telling you
25:54
something and you know while every day
25:57
does have its own struggles look for
26:00
those things that are unique ability
26:01
because I truly believe based on you
26:03
know what I’ve learned what I’ve
26:04
experienced and I love dance opens
26:06
concept of unique ability if you really
26:08
focus on your unique ability your your
26:11
ability to do what you do and help a lot
26:14
more people is uh
26:15
is exponential so I’m I’m excited by
26:17
that awesome Nick thank you so much love
26:20
having you on the show and again we’ll
26:21
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